Bad Coach Calls, Blame the Guys in Blue!!!!

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I thought this would be a good place for umpires to talk about all the coachs mistakes, after all they all blame us in the other posts. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

1. Long deep fly to center girl on third (tying run) he never tells her to tag opps to late run never scored team loses. And they balme us for blown calls!!!

2. Single to ball come back to pitcher circle. Player rounds first stands there, coach is chatting with a fan. opps to late look back rule batter out. Cmon blue she was moving back, Oh Yea back to the dugout.

3. No out runners on first and second, infield pop up ...Umps yells infield fly both girls off an running... She tagged blue..Yea right she did...triple play

4. Base hit to right field, girls runs way past first and takes wide turn to second, ball was thown into second baseman who turns to tag girl only to see she is by the outfield grass after wide turn, missed tag, tying run scores. Coach comes out argues, that the girl was out of the running lane. Field ump explains she made her path to second base, walks back to dugout tells his girls its 11 against 9 no way we can win.

Gets rule book out comes back out and says it says right here the runner must stay in the running lane.
opps wrong rule the running lane is down the first base line. Loses game tells his girls the umps cost us from going to the championship game.

You get the idea these actually happened in a travel ball tournament 14-u and 18-u but the guy in blue cost us the game.

Any other blues have some good coach stories of how we cost them the game like the ones above that actually happened?

 

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Yeah this seems like a bad idea.

 

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Yeah this seems like a bad idea.

yup ?:-X

 

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I think turnabout is a great idea and what I like the most is I don't have anything to post about dd's coach. Except maybe the great move of getting us out of an inning with two minutes left to start a new inning in which we score 6 runs and win the game !!!!!

 

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I love this one.

Team loses 16-4 and I was told that I cost them the game. The coach never thought about the 4 fly balls dropped in the out field the 3 over throws at first and players stradling the bag on a force out the ball beats the runner catcher ?never touches the plate the runner slides just like she should and the catcher tries to tag her which was late- runner safe.

This was all at 16U.

I 100% beleive all organizations need to teach their coaches the rule book. I feel it must be mandatory with a test if you would like to coach. Do not score 80% or high no coaching.

 

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WoW,
this is a great thread here! I know I can learn alot that goes on in the Blue's heads :-/ In all my coaching years (not softball) number one rule is not to tee off an ump, ref, official. does this rule include on this thread?

 

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Alls I can say is that's a whole passle of pent-up opps! :-?

 

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Yeah this seems like a bad idea.

I like the idea. Bring it on, as long as you leave out the team names or tourney names.

 

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I kind of like this one.......I learned at a VERY young age from my Dad and my coaches that Umps or ref`s can not lose a game for you.....Yea sure there are some judgment calls that may go against you but in all my years of playing and my short years of coaching I have NEVER seen an ump decide a game with one call (I am sure it has happend ? but I have not seen it) As a coach I always try to make sure the girls and my other coaches (and myself)do not get "s u c k e d" in to "getting on umps" I believe this is a poor way to coach...Coach your team not the ump`s....

We were in a game earlier this year and we were struglin against a pitcher and about the 4th inning both my assistant coaches came to me and started complaining that the other pitcher was "leaping and crow-hopping" They wanted me to say something to umps and I said no....after the game( we lost 4 to 2 ) the ump behind plate came up to me and said "thanks for not bringing that up( he must have overheard us) I told him I did not think the pitcher was getting any advantage from doing what she was doing Ump agreed......When I huddled the girls up and end of game one of my players brought up that there girl was pitching "illegaly" and thats why we lost ? I quickly reminded them that The reason we lost is We had 3 errors in OF (cost us 2 runs) ?and left 3 runners stranded on 3rd....with less than 1 out all three times...I told my team the reason we did not win is I as a coach did not put you girls in the position to be succsessful and we did not execute as a team........

BTW I am not sure if it would help if ALL coaches new the rule book all that well, since in my opinion most of the calls during a course of a game that are questionable are judgement calls anyways.......I believe you will NEVER win an argument when it is a judgement call...JMHO

 

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643dp...

I think if the coaches new the rule book better it would force the umpires out there to stay on top of their own game and that is studing the rules. At least the stand up ones. There will always be your umpires out their that are just clowns.

If you know the rules the calls that are made at times will not be argued. I have had a few times were the coach question a rule because their past 5 games the umpire did not call it. But I read and carry my rule book with me everywhere I go. To work,in the car and to all of my DD's tournaments.

I will never be a perfect umpire but I will do my best to improve on my game everyday.

When I coached, I like you taught my team that we can never put ourselves in a position where a questionable call will cost us the game. Field every ball score every run that is in scoring position and no umpire will cost you a game.

 

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BluedevilDad...
Good point.. I never really thought of it that way...I just always try to pay more attention to what my girls are doing and were we can improve as a team than worrying about the umps....don`t get me wrong I have disagreed with some calls during the games but I question them and go on...I do not let it get to me it does no good to fester over a call.....
BTW I try to study my rules book all the time and it gives me a HUGE migrain.... ;D

 

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The one that sticks out in my mind in the last 20 years of umpiring is:
Tying run on third,winnig run on second, bottom of 7th 2 outs, throw back from catcher to third. ball gets away from the fielder coach grabs girl up off the ground pushes her towards home. I call runner out for coach aiding a runner,game over. After yelling at me saying ?I made that rule up, tells parents and girls that I stole the game from them. Now parents are all over me and not him for his mistake. Smart coach I guess

 

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[quote author=Uber_Jones link=1215550622/0#1 date=1215551349]Yeah this seems like a bad idea.

yup ?:-X
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Ya....I gotta get out of here....

 

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Yelling/arguing at an umpire NEVER helps....it ONLY gives your team a bad name and gives the girls an "excuse" for the loss!
Judgement calls can never be reversed thus, it doesn't make sense to argue.
I coach a young 10U team and the only time I TALK with an umpire is when I am absolutely positive that he had the rule incorrect. I don't bring out the rule book immediately as this distracts the girls. I have an assistant look it up privately then I privately talk with the umpire about the incorrect call.
He/she is usually very grateful!?!?!
BUT this rarely happens...umpires are well informed of the rules.

 

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Well now that the tables have have turned some coach's just don't want to here it.

There are no names or tournaments listed, like you coach's say oh the So & So tournament worst umps I have ever saw.

I can assure you I have umpired many a tournament and I could write a book on bonehead coach mistakes.

Keep the post going this is starting to be fun ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

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Ump_FP,

I tried to get out but couldn?t

I know nobody?s getting rich but you are paid to know that rules and be the controlling entity of the game. I?m sure coaches do make bad on the spot decisions but not knowing the rules of the game is not an ?on the spot? mistake. It?s simply not being prepared. I know that coaches don?t always act properly. But coaches are emotionally charged and emotionally attached. You are not! Lose the attitude, lose the arrogance, lose the ?covering the other umps back?, and know and administer the rules and that will take care of a lot, not all, of the criticism.

Not directed at you. Just in general.

You?re right this is fun.

 

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If you follow the redneck rules to coaching responsibility, all will be right with your team. (I saw these scrawled inside the porta-pot at Bugtussle)

Rule #1: If you win, credit the girls
Rule #2: If you lose, blame the umps
Rule #3: If you tie, blame the tournament director
Rule #4: If you get blown out, creat a new OFC screen name and lay the digital lumber.

 

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we seriously should post those rules!

know i have to figure out how to top that one!

 

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If you follow the redneck rules to coaching responsibility, all will be right with your team. (I saw these scrawled inside the porta-pot at Bugtussle)

Rule #1: If you win, credit the girls
Rule #2: If you lose, blame the umps
Rule #3: If you tie, blame the tournament director
Rule #4: If you get blown out, creat a new OFC screen name and lay the digital lumber.

This made my day! I can not stop laughing. So true. Especially rule 4. ;D

 

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Ice ed nailed it. What we need to get past is the confrontational attitude displayed by both coaches and umpires. Everyone is going to make mistakes - that's a given. Umpires that have a chip on their shoulder give umpires in general a bad name. Coaches that don't respect umpires give coaches a bad name. It's never going to be hunky-dory - just respect the game and those involved. jmho