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DD is tough on cleats. We have tried many different cleats added Tuff Toe with no better results. Bottom line is Ringors can't be beat. The diamond star metal is much lighter than the the molded cleat. There is no second guessing the quality of these cleats. DD pitches alot and works on her game very hard and ringors stand up to her demands. We will never buy another cleat and we have tried them all....