ASA Tournament Cincy Metro

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Tim,
I would have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Get a berth and never play a game ? Really ? At least if a berth is handed down, the team that it was handed down to had to play games. I just think that sending a team to the "big show" just because they happened to be the only one that entered is wrong.

JMHO

I agree. To just hand a team the birth, IMO, is wrong. There are PLENTY of teams that would have came to Cincy to play for it.

 

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Then the others should have gotten into it. What can you do ? Nobody was barring them from entering. Not the one teams fault that nobody got in.

Truth be told, this event was not put out over the wire until REAL late.

I like Michelle .. but I think they threw her to the "wolves" and said fix this Metro.... and it can't be fixed.

 

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I agree. To just hand a team the birth, IMO, is wrong. There are PLENTY of teams that would have came to Cincy to play for it.

Where was those plenty of teams? It was a Dayton/Cincinnati Metro deal.
The PLENTY of teams you talk about had to be from Dayton or Cincy Metro in the first place to play. The reason they included Dayton.. was because there is not enough teams in the Cincy Metro to cover even a small tournament.

 

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so who was the one team ? With the economy in the tank a lot of teams can't make a week long trip to nationals.

 

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Tim,
I would have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Get a berth and never play a game ? Really ? At least if a berth is handed down, the team that it was handed down to had to play games. I just think that sending a team to the "big show" just because they happened to be the only one that entered is wrong.

JMHO

Gopher, I see your side. I do but.. and here's the but.... Why would you penalize this team for getting in the tournament for a "wanted" berth... and just because nobody from Cincinnati and Dayton came to play? This team.. whoever it is ... and I surely hope nobody comes on here and say who it is as it is ... none of our business and to put a stigma on those girls is just wrong in my book.

@ Dan Bored today.. not watching any games ?

But back to why.... maybe this team wanted to really go. Now, being from Cincinnati / Dayton area.. does it make more sense to stay home and play or go to Findlay to play in the states and look for one against X amount of teams. Save that money for the Nationals if you happen to get a berth !!!! Locals didn't support it. Rather go play States and that is great, too. To each their own. I am sure many signed up for the States BEFORE this event was out there. I think a lot of teams went to States with NO intention of going to Nationals.. and just wanted to play in a nice event full of teams they might not see the rest of the year if they don't travel much. I always thought that was what States was all about.. let alone the "bragging rights" well earned.

Now, here is a big thing, too.

SW Ohio is USSSA land. Been for years. Rumpke is ASA. City Parks at Hamilton, Ohio is ASA and Dayton is ASA / USSSA mixed. Harrison as of two years ago did an ASA event and USSSA went I am sure. :lmao:

So, opportunities for local teams to play ASA SW Ohio events is pretty much limited in this area. Most Southern Ohio teams have to travel to do so most of the year unless they play USSSA in Cincinnati and Beavercreek.

Dan said it best.. the economy. They have to travel all year to play ASA.. so being close to home a weekend surely has to be a relief financially to this team's parents. Has to be.

They opened the Cincy Metro to include Dayton to gather more teams of course. They didn't come. Oh, well.

Why penalize this team on an early decision to stay home and play their Metro. If they was really wanting it... and it is cancelled because of lack of teams... where they going to go NOW ???? States are usually closed off to "new" teams.. what... 3 weeks before the event normally ( this year is an exception ).

Like Merlion said, " It is what it is"

And to ever believe it is right to put that team on here who won it.. is just absolutely wrong in my book.

I can hear it now... " That team went out there and lost and made Ohio in general look bad in the eyes of college coaches and this is why college coaches don't seriously look at Ohio girls, blah, blah, blah".

I hope if they do except the bid.. they work hard and get ready. Going in front of college coaches.. kind of "motivational" type of tool for some teams.

Go O - H - I - O.

But, I don't see "penalizing " this team for a coach's and probally his parent's decision to stay home and play.

@ Dan How you been, Dan ? Hopefully all is well with you and yours.

 

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At the Metro meeting Monday Michelle discussed Metro Cincinnati tournaments in 2012.
June 29, 30 & July 1, 2012 at Rumpke Park - 16u & 18u USA/ASA National Qualifier
July 2, 3 & 4, 2012 at Rumpke Park - Cincinnati Metro 10u, 12u, 14u, 16u & 18u

Smart move on the date for 16u and 18u NQ. Picks up teams from Sluggerfest's demise across the river. I forget what Beavercreek normally has that weekend. Might be stealing those teams, too !!!!

ASA Cincy Metro match up with USSSA Smokey Baker at Expressway for 4th of July weekend. Gutsy call. Could be an interesting winter on Coach's choice in this area.

Might make Smokey Baker event coordinators think about expanding their event to get more ballfield space for 2012 and try to attract more out of state teams.. which in turn will attract more of the locals. Goshen comes to mind

Battle lines have been drawn. :lmao:

Nice move Michelle on the NQ at the end of June, 2012 date.

 

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They opened the Cincy Metro to include Dayton to gather more teams of course. They didn't come. Oh, well.

Thats not true. The USA/ASA Cincy Merto was never opened up for Dayton (for 16U teams). That is why there were no teams that signed up.

 

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Looks like one team entered the tournament in 16u. Then they should get it.

I believe that EMR got the bid.

 

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Well good for them. If they go, they will represent well .

 

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The Cincy Metro tournament is only open to teams registered in ASA Metro Cincinnati and there are some pretty good teams in there including the ASA State tournament winner this year.

On the Sunday before the cincy metro meeting Michelle had four teams, by Wednesday of that week three teams had dropped out for various reasons, one got there berth, one decided not to play and one dropped due to injuries leaving EMR 16U, by Thursday Michelle had decide to close the 16U metro. EMR signed up to play in the Cincy Metro back in early April and wanted a berth to USA/ASA nationals. In 2010 EMR won the 16U USA/ASA national berth playing at the metro and would have loved to played games this year for the berth.

So far this season EMR 16U has played four tournaments finishing 1st twice, one against a very tough field of teams at the Laser Nation tournament and then finishing tied for 9th at the ASA State tournament with a overall record of 22-5. With four tournaments yet to play that include the GAPSS and USA/ASA Nationals.

Not a bad 2011 season, so far for a team that got a berth, so called ?handed to them".

 

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The Cincy Metro tournament is only open to teams registered in ASA Metro Cincinnati and there are some pretty good teams in there including the ASA State tournament winner this year.

On the Sunday before the cincy metro meeting Michelle had four teams, by Wednesday of that week three teams had dropped out for various reasons, one got there berth, one decided not to play and one dropped due to injuries leaving EMR 16U, by Thursday Michelle had decide to close the 16U metro. EMR signed up to play in the Cincy Metro back in early April and wanted a berth to USA/ASA nationals. In 2010 EMR won the 16U USA/ASA national berth playing at the metro and would have loved to played games this year for the berth.

So far this season EMR 16U has played four tournaments finishing 1st twice, one against a very tough field of teams at the Laser Nation tournament and then finishing tied for 9th at the ASA State tournament with a overall record of 22-5. With four tournaments yet to play that include the GAPSS and USA/ASA Nationals.

Not a bad 2011 season, so far for a team that got a berth, so called ?handed to them".

doesnt matter bout thier season record. only tourneey they won is a colleg showcase not a qualifier. finishing tied for 9th at asa states is good but not good enuff. they did not play 1 game to earn the berth so that means it was "handed to them"

 

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I guess it was Tater Tot... Don't you wish you lived in the Cincy Metro

 

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Next thing you know ... somebody will be complaining that they are an INDIANA team !!!!

3 counties in SE Indiana is in the Cincy Metro ( just a quick answer to that thought )

 

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Well good for them. If they go, they will represent well .

Agreed. GO EMR

 

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My apologies to Michelle- I was tough on her and should have been more reserved. She did get back with me to explain that it was cancelled due to only one team getting in.

Frustrated- To say the least

At least everyone will have a heads up on next season as it will be held on the 4th.

 

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ASA needs to get it together. Way to many inconsistancies in how obtaining a bid takes place. A bid is supposed to be earned and have some prestige. It doesn't add up for me but they are not my rules so it really doesn't matter what I think.

So if you have earned a bid you cannot participate in other tournies to earn a bid . If you are a 14U team and have no intentions of using the bid you can participate and if you are the only team that signed up you just get the bid. Seems like every end of the spectrum is allowed to happen based upon how ASA is feeling that day. Don't even let me get started on the roster rules !!!!!

No bad feelings to EMR...they are playing by the rules.

 

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She did get back with me to explain that it was cancelled due to only one team getting in.

Thats because it wasn't opened up to other teams. The Dayton Metro had 20 teams fighting each other for the bid. The Cleveland Metro had 32 teams fighting for thier bid and the Cincy Metro had only 1 team (because teams weren't allowed in) in which the bid was just gave to them. Something just ain't right.

No bad feelings to EMR...they are playing by the rules.

I have no bad feelings toward EMR either. I don't blame them for accepting the bid that was giving to them. Congrats to the EMR '94 team, I'm sure they will represent Ohio well.

With the being said.....something definetly needs to be done. IMHO, all USA/ASA National Tournaments should be open to whoever wants a shot at the bid. Teams should have to beat the best from their State to represent their State.

 

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Not sue why it got closed so early also- the meeting was on Monday last week and we didn't kow about it. We made them aware that we wanted to play on Wed of last week and were told it was closed. Plenty of time in my opinion from last Wed to this Tuesday to go ahead and get teams together to play for bid.

Oh well it is what it is , but would have been nice.

Good luck EMR Rep ohio well!

 

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The schedule I got emailed to me yesterday is as follows:
July 5th
OFC Heat 96 vs Doom 97 - 6:00 pm
Winner plays Riptides at 7:45 pm
Loser Game 1 plays loser of game 2 at 9:30 pm

July 6th
Winner of Game 2 versus winner of Loser bracket at 7:45 pm
What if game if needed at 9:30 pm.

Were these games, or any others, played for Cincy Metro?

 

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Yes we played on Tuesday night. We lost to the OFC Heat 96, they then beat the Riptides, then we played the Riptides and lost. We were done on Tuesday night and OFC and Riptides had to come back, but haven't heard any outcome of that game or if they had to play another one.