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In all honesty the ball parks should be required to have portable defibulators and trained to use them. Just a thought. And yes my DD wears armor as well as the face mask.
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The definite impression was that wearing a game face mask was a negative in the recruiting calculation. I followed up with the question whether we were doing our girls a disservice by requiring or encouraging masks and the three sort of waffled, but again I read them to say that it was a negative factor in recruiting. I think their concern was whether the mask interfered with the infielder's vision when fielding.
The definite impression was that wearing a game face mask was a negative in the recruiting calculation. I followed up with the question whether we were doing our girls a disservice by requiring or encouraging masks and the three sort of waffled, but again I read them to say that it was a negative factor in recruiting. I think their concern was whether the mask interfered with the infielder's vision when fielding.
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My DD wears the Rip It face mask and the Evo Shield chest protector.
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My DD wears game face and heart guard!! She did have trouble with visability at first but now she has no trouble and wants to wear it.
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I know this post is about injury prevention and face guards and I am not trying to hijack the thread but I would like to agree 100% with the above. I carry the teams first aid kit and have been strongly considering trying to raise funds to purchase an AED for the team to have available.
I do believe that the public schools are required to have them on site (as well as be trained to use them) and many public businesses have elected to have them.
I volunteered in the medical tent at the Flying Pig Marathon and there was an athletic trainer from one of the Cincinnati Public Schools who also volunteered--In her team medical bag she had an AED--it is available at every one of that schools games home or away.
I am not sure if this is already in place for organizations or not --but I also think in terms of safety, that each team should consider asking for volunteers to consider taking a class to learn basic CPR--you never know when it might be needed!
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No hijacking here, I agree on both the AED and the mask.
I have seen too many close calls on other kids not to have my own wear one. Why have an accident that was preventable.
As for the AED's love the idea, but as many of us know the girls don't always get what the boys get unless the parents go get it!
like the thinking here, even thinking of switching from the game face to the rip it mask it just looks better, lighter, and easier to see.
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Got both my girls rip-it face masks about 4 weeks ago to replace the bangers and game face and they love them as they are much more open than the gameface.They also replaced the grills on there helmets with rip-it and see much better as they are far more open than all others i have seen.
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I agree with this one too! We changed out my dd helmet mask to the rip it one in the fall and she loves it--she can see the full motion of the pitcher and generally see better versus the old face mask.
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The dd fought me at first, but always wears one now when she is pitching or playing third. She has had a game face for two years now. After last weekend when our pitcher took one to the cheek, that was her first comment., .
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Same story here, when dd started pitching we mandated a facemask. We got a Ripit and she didn't want to wear it, but after a couple of practices, she said she doesn't even realize she was wearing it.
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OMG! i remember this! my team was playing at the field across from your team when we saw the ambulence come. We didnt know what happened but we thought it had something to do with a softball player because of the other players on the field. I hope she gets better 
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I'll offer this to the mix: The proper technique for completing the pitching motion -- finishing in a fielding position--- is largely ignored in both softball and baseball these days. You see relief pitchers in baseball finishing completely off balance and unable to field even a softly hit ball because of it-- let alone defend themselves against a line drive. Softball pitchers finish standing straight up with their hands nowhere near the fielding posture. I'm surprised more of them don't get drilled.
Teach the basics. Don't put girls in the circle until they're well-trained---- and then force the ruling parties to go back to wood or basic aluminum. The game would be much better and much safer--- and no one would have to wear armor or masks. Stop treating the symptoms and start treating the disease.
Teach the basics. Don't put girls in the circle until they're well-trained---- and then force the ruling parties to go back to wood or basic aluminum. The game would be much better and much safer--- and no one would have to wear armor or masks. Stop treating the symptoms and start treating the disease.
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I don't know if you your dd is a pitcher or plays the corners truth, but I would like to know just until I can understand you view point.
I have spent a couple of hours each week at pitching lessons with my dd for about 4 years. Motion and technique is all that we work on. We don't worry about speed, it is just breaking down each part of the body and the motion to obtain the desired results, which is either striking the batter out or making her hit it where we want the ball to go.
I only have the equivalent of a Masters degree in statistics but I would believe that even if it was required of every player on a 12 player team to wear armor (chest protector) at $90.00, and a game face at $50.00 that would total about $140.00. Now let’s replace all our composite bats with wood and aluminum bat, at and average of $200.00 a piece (and that is cheap bats) and my dd carries 2 or 3 bats depending on the weather. Wow: I figure I can save about $440.00 per player just staying with the game face. That is a saving of $5280.00 per team. I think we will stay with the game face.
If your pitcher is finishing knees bend and glove on the ground and is in a perfect defensive position I would believe that they are playing slow pitch. The better pitchers have a great follow thru with their pitch which leaves them in an unusual position. If they go defensive too soon they will pitch high, and the speed will drop off. There will be no way under the sun to throw an over the top drop ball, and even the change up has a follow thru that will leave them somewhat open to a hard hit ball.
The safety equipment is the evolution of the game. The same as seat belts were in the car. Accidents (symptom) are a result of the invention of the auto (which I would assume would be the disease) so would you propose that we go back to horse and buggy, or simply try to treat the symptom to improve society. The same is what the majority of parents and coaches are doing with the safety equipment in softball. Weather it is mandatory for your dd on a specific team would determine if she played on that team or not, that is your decision.
I have spent a couple of hours each week at pitching lessons with my dd for about 4 years. Motion and technique is all that we work on. We don't worry about speed, it is just breaking down each part of the body and the motion to obtain the desired results, which is either striking the batter out or making her hit it where we want the ball to go.
I only have the equivalent of a Masters degree in statistics but I would believe that even if it was required of every player on a 12 player team to wear armor (chest protector) at $90.00, and a game face at $50.00 that would total about $140.00. Now let’s replace all our composite bats with wood and aluminum bat, at and average of $200.00 a piece (and that is cheap bats) and my dd carries 2 or 3 bats depending on the weather. Wow: I figure I can save about $440.00 per player just staying with the game face. That is a saving of $5280.00 per team. I think we will stay with the game face.
If your pitcher is finishing knees bend and glove on the ground and is in a perfect defensive position I would believe that they are playing slow pitch. The better pitchers have a great follow thru with their pitch which leaves them in an unusual position. If they go defensive too soon they will pitch high, and the speed will drop off. There will be no way under the sun to throw an over the top drop ball, and even the change up has a follow thru that will leave them somewhat open to a hard hit ball.
The safety equipment is the evolution of the game. The same as seat belts were in the car. Accidents (symptom) are a result of the invention of the auto (which I would assume would be the disease) so would you propose that we go back to horse and buggy, or simply try to treat the symptom to improve society. The same is what the majority of parents and coaches are doing with the safety equipment in softball. Weather it is mandatory for your dd on a specific team would determine if she played on that team or not, that is your decision.
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Im with you 4th. As all games grow, the equipment must grow with it. So you have gameface, and rip-it. Both do their job to protect the athlete. My dd swinges her rockettech just as hard as her allum. TPS(for cold mornings) balls come of just as hot on a line drive. going back to wood or allum. you will still have the girls getting stronger, and hitting harder. You will be back to the same discussion, so by "truth" we just need to go to wiffle ball, flag football, and not keeping score. I say protect the girls as good as you can and let them play as hard as they are able.
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That's not true at all. I don't advocate the gameface because it looks bad and hinders the players' ability to make plays. I don't care what anyone says, a player will not see the ball as well with that mask as without it.
You read the post about college coaches balking when they see a player wearing one. I've been watching the college games on TV and haven't seen ONE. It's NOT going to evolve to the college game. It's going to remain right in the travel game where it belongs-- where nobody will lose their position because a ball they couldn't see rolled through their legs. Let that happen in the Final Four and the coach would say, "you AND your mask can ride the bench!"
You read the post about college coaches balking when they see a player wearing one. I've been watching the college games on TV and haven't seen ONE. It's NOT going to evolve to the college game. It's going to remain right in the travel game where it belongs-- where nobody will lose their position because a ball they couldn't see rolled through their legs. Let that happen in the Final Four and the coach would say, "you AND your mask can ride the bench!"
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Some people just cant see the forest through the trees.
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Count in Valley Extreme Patchin 14U.
Pitchers and 3rd base all wear game faces. We were at a Tourney once a while back where a pitcher was life flighted out due to a line drive back at her face. Same Tournament a pitcher wearing a game face took another line drive....shook her head and kept on pitching. My DD isnt allowed to pitch or play 3rd without one, until she pays for her own medical insurance. PERIOD!
Pitchers and 3rd base all wear game faces. We were at a Tourney once a while back where a pitcher was life flighted out due to a line drive back at her face. Same Tournament a pitcher wearing a game face took another line drive....shook her head and kept on pitching. My DD isnt allowed to pitch or play 3rd without one, until she pays for her own medical insurance. PERIOD!
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Who would have ever thought that we would hear so many positive comments about face shields??? A little over a year ago I was chastised for even thinking about making face masks mandatory..... Now I have people driving miles to get one from me and they are a common sight on the fields in NW Ohio.
See, it wasn't such a big deal after all now, was it???
See, it wasn't such a big deal after all now, was it???
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Just watched Michigan vs Alabama = Zero face masks used in game
watching Arizona vs Florida = Zero face masks used in game
Here's the truth: They're great for the 95 percent of travel players who are NOT potential division 1 athletes. Without that 95 percent, there would be one or two teams in every age group. If you ARE division 1 material and you are forced by coach or parent to wear a mask, then you'll have to make the psychological and physical adjustment if you get to college because clearly they are NOT worn AT ALL.
watching Arizona vs Florida = Zero face masks used in game
Here's the truth: They're great for the 95 percent of travel players who are NOT potential division 1 athletes. Without that 95 percent, there would be one or two teams in every age group. If you ARE division 1 material and you are forced by coach or parent to wear a mask, then you'll have to make the psychological and physical adjustment if you get to college because clearly they are NOT worn AT ALL.
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