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Just because....I have to ask this what do you make of a team that's is supposedly loaded having to pick up better players during the season and for Nationals? does this mean A) The coach want's to win at any cost and will do whatever's necessary despite how it's perceived by some players and parents. B) The coach is in over his head and can't coach his or her way to a win by instructing and developing his or her team? C) I'm open to any other suggestions.......;&

The little Statman dressed up like Daddy Dice!

Can you see the resemblance Statman?

 

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B) The coach is in over his head and can't coach his or her way to a win by instructing and developing his or her team?

The coach picked the original team so if they are picking players up its because they can't coach.

 

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(X) Some of the players are seriously injured.
(Y) Some of the families can't afford to go.
(Z) The coach couldn't teach speed. Go figure.

Scott, although your posts frequently annoy me, it is good to see you back here. Hope the summer has treated you well.

 

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You plan for the worst and hope for the best. Taking an extra player or three to try and bring a championship back to Ohio is nothing more than being prepared.

 

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You plan for the worst and hope for the best. Taking an extra player or three to try and bring a championship back to Ohio is nothing more than being prepared.

well, yeah, but, mean time, there are parents who paid fees and girls who worked hard all season who sit while some ringer tries to win the championship. I don't think a coach's priority is bring a championship back to Ohio. If you don't have injuries, or poor parents, take YOUR team to the tournament ... it ain't about you, coach.

 

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I say you dance with who brought you. We started with 12 now down to 10 due to parent health issues and player injuries. Going to Disney with 10. I will say if we only had nine I would be looking to pick up a player.

 

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I think that picking up a few players to help at nationals is a good idea, the coach just has to balance everything very carefully. I think that it is always a good idea to pick up at least a third quality pitcher to help the team.

Another reason that some coaches pick up players is to hopefully get them on the team for the next season. On high level teams, it's always about putting together the best players possible. I'm not saying that this is the best way to run a team, but it is what happens on the higher level teams at this time of the year. Look at the major leagues, they're picking up players to help them finish the season and into the post season. Do you think it's about loyalty or performance?

 

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Missed you man! Just be a good boy!

We are taking two additional players for two reasons.

1st been there tons of times when/and if you do not have depth in pitching you will regret it. So picked up a pitcher so our girls can survive. Now before everyone freaks on that here's why. My #3 has had two concussions this summer and has missed a total of 3 touraments due to the need to hit her head (lol). Have to have three to give the girls pleanty of rest time if we hit the losers bracket and do the back-to-back-to-back games.

2nd, my starting short stop cannot make it to nationals with us and she has a BIG bat that will be sorely missed. We picked up a player that has a big bat to help replace hers and thus allow us to move our infield around a little to adjust for the missing player.

I will never go with less than 12 to Nationals because I have seen all types of weird things happen over the 16 years I have been doing this. . .injuries, heat exhaustion, illness, you name it. At least with 12 you can insure rest time with all players and a healthy out come.

JMHO

 

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.... Look at the major leagues, they're picking up players to help them finish the season and into the post season. Do you think it's about loyalty or performance?

Not even an apples to oranges comparison. MLB players are PAID to play. It is their job, their profession. Kids (parents) are paying to play and in most cases a lot of money when you factor in all the hidden money you spend all year. I fully believe you have a responsibility to kids that paid to play, and worked all year on your team FIRST and FOREMOST. Anything else and it's an ego trip to for your coach. Who are you trying to win for? It ain't the players if you toss them to the side.

Disclaimer. This is all a moot point IF you have injuries and need to pick up players just to play. I also, feel that IF you need to pick up players due to injury, etc. the pick-up player should get ample play time. You can't ask anyone to commit the time and money to travel to play for a team just to watch all weekend, just in case something happens. It works both way.

It is a slipper slope. The coach may the CEO, but all the parents are major stockholders. It should at least be discussed with them so nobody is surprised.

 

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^GREAT post^

Agree with every word, Ohio Wave 14u

 

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not even an apples to oranges comparison. Mlb players are paid to play. It is their job, their profession. Kids (parents) are paying to play and in most cases a lot of money when you factor in all the hidden money you spend all year. I fully believe you have a responsibility to kids that paid to play, and worked all year on your team first and foremost. Anything else and it's an ego trip to for your coach. Who are you trying to win for? It ain't the players if you toss them to the side.

Disclaimer. This is all a moot point if you have injuries and need to pick up players just to play. I also, feel that if you need to pick up players due to injury, etc. The pick-up player should get ample play time. You can't ask anyone to commit the time and money to travel to play for a team just to watch all weekend, just in case something happens. It works both way.

It is a slipper slope. The coach may the ceo, but all the parents are major stockholders. It should at least be discussed with them so nobody is surprised.

amen!!!!

 

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Not even an apples to oranges comparison. MLB players are PAID to play. It is their job, their profession. Kids (parents) are paying to play and in most cases a lot of money when you factor in all the hidden money you spend all year. I fully believe you have a responsibility to kids that paid to play, and worked all year on your team FIRST and FOREMOST. Anything else and it's an ego trip to for your coach. Who are you trying to win for? It ain't the players if you toss them to the side.

Disclaimer. This is all a moot point IF you have injuries and need to pick up players just to play. I also, feel that IF you need to pick up players due to injury, etc. the pick-up player should get ample play time. You can't ask anyone to commit the time and money to travel to play for a team just to watch all weekend, just in case something happens. It works both way.

It is a slipper slope. The coach may the CEO, but all the parents are major stockholders. It should at least be discussed with them so nobody is surprised.

You speak wisely this morning. I have total respect what you are saying. As a parent, this is the response/action I would want to hear.

 

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We were at a tournament this past weekend that a coach from an 18u or 16u (not sure which) team, let 3 of their girls drive to the tournament, asked for their uniforms, and gave the uniforms to 3 different girls that were supposedly "ringers". Told the original 3 they were not needed that weekend.

No telling what some people with no class will do!

 

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We were at a tournament this past weekend that a coach from an 18u or 16u (not sure which) team, let 3 of their girls drive to the tournament, asked for their uniforms, and gave the uniforms to 3 different girls that were supposedly "ringers". Told the original 3 they were not needed that weekend.

No telling what some people with no class will do!

OUCH!!! That is totally out of line and disrepectful. If they were problem players discuss first before they head to the tournament. My question would have been, why didn't they leave with their uniforms unless they were paid for by the team and were team property? Hard to suit a player if you have no uniform. That would be the only time I would say take it and run. . .

 

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Communication, communication, communication!!!

As Ohio Wave 14U mentioned, it should be a TEAM decision as to pick-up players for Nationals. A coach should hold a team meeting to discuss with the girls and the parents whether the TEAM should add players for Nationals.

 

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Not even an apples to oranges comparison. MLB players are PAID to play. It is their job, their profession. Kids (parents) are paying to play and in most cases a lot of money when you factor in all the hidden money you spend all year. I fully believe you have a responsibility to kids that paid to play, and worked all year on your team FIRST and FOREMOST. Anything else and it's an ego trip to for your coach. Who are you trying to win for? It ain't the players if you toss them to the side.

Disclaimer. This is all a moot point IF you have injuries and need to pick up players just to play. I also, feel that IF you need to pick up players due to injury, etc. the pick-up player should get ample play time. You can't ask anyone to commit the time and money to travel to play for a team just to watch all weekend, just in case something happens. It works both way.

It is a slipper slope. The coach may the CEO, but all the parents are major stockholders. It should at least be discussed with them so nobody is surprised.

Worth repeating

And I agree with your earlier post. "you dance with who brought you"

 

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I say you dance with who brought you. We started with 12 now down to 10 due to parent health issues and player injuries. Going to Disney with 10. I will say if we only had nine I would be looking to pick up a player.

Well put... a lot of teams have issues at Nationals due to the friction it creates among the players and parents that were there all season.. to each their own, I would rather go with my kids unless there were injuries or other special circumstances.

 

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The coach may the CEO, but all the parents are major stockholders. It should at least be discussed with them so nobody is surprised.

Well said.

 

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Communication, communication, communication!!!

As Ohio Wave 14U mentioned, it should be a TEAM decision as to pick-up players for Nationals. A coach should hold a team meeting to discuss with the girls and the parents whether the TEAM should add players for Nationals.

I think this is the best way to begin resolving the 'short on players' issue. Ask the position players if they want a utility player or 2 to play different positions as a break from the heat...and ask the pitchers if they want someone to help out..2 pitchers for a 6-7 game tournament is not enough..what if one of them is off or gets overly tired and can't physically go anymore.. Same with catchers..personally, I would rather get a few less innings of playing time to split with the extra player so it's fair for her than die in the circle in the 95 degree heat after my 4th game pitching that weekend...but that's just me...some people are into that...

 

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OUCH!!! That is totally out of line and disrepectful. If they were problem players discuss first before they head to the tournament. My question would have been, why didn't they leave with their uniforms unless they were paid for by the team and were team property? Hard to suit a player if you have no uniform. That would be the only time I would say take it and run. . .

That's exactly what I said. The coach would have had to lie to them to give up their uniforms. I can't imagine any of them doing it willingly without being lied to.

Just overheard one of the mothers asking the TD if there was any rule against it or anything he could do to the team itself. Of course there wasn't. I didn't know her personally so didn't ask questions.