Hitting and Hitters Discussion Hips leading your Hitting part 2

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Both lefty slappers

One hit a home run, one a single

One used her hips properly (right time) to add power, out of the park.
One used her arms, upper body swing. Hips to early if at all.

Like I said in my previous post, want to hit with power. You choose.



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if the one on the left hit the homerun then wow.

But from what i see is both used their hips, the one on the right started off with the hips square to the pitcher, loaded and swung through the hit, really hips were not used to the max at all. The girl on the left only swung a half swing stopping the bat right after contact.
 
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I am letting you choose which one you think hit a home run.
One used her hips
One did not. IMO

Left? or Right?
 
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RIGHT for sure :)

One on left squared but didn't use hips, one on right rotated her hips
 
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Power slapping, wow! If you can run up on a 57 mph pitch or faster with movement..... your head is probably bouncing somewhat and hit a bomb. That is not mechanics as much as it is a gift, that hitter is a genetically gifted athlete. She could more than likely snatch a candy cane off the Christmas tree and hit a double using it. Wow! That is impressive.
 
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the one on the right hit the bomb, but it was not because of hips she did not use them much, it was because she used her OBLIQUES to the fullist, and her left thigh and glute.
 
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Both are impressive.
Right hit the homerun.
Left didn't have a full swing............it was more like a contact slap. She was definitely concentrating more on ball placement than power.
 
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The one on the right hit the HR. Look at the trajectory of the ball leaving the bat.
 
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In the park or over the fence homerun ?

I think a natural disaster would have to occur to get an in the park homerun in college ball. Outfielders are too fast and fences are not deep enough. :).
 
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The one on the right hit the HR. She started wide open and rotated her hips twords the direction of 1st base dugout. I've never seen it done like that, but it looked neet. One on the left was all upper body and gave up on the swing at contact, no follow through to extention.
 
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Straightleg- Gerry and I are friends. Just so no one gets confused on this post. Slappers do not use the hips in many of the slaps they are taught. My dd has 7 different ways she has been taught to slap. Each depends on the defense and what you are trying to accomplish. If she is power slapping or hitting for power the hips come into play. She can power slap and bounce it off the fence or hit for power like she did against Shelby high school last year. It all depends what is needed. She also works with Howard, CB, Cassie Cunningham and many others . For example if the first slapper is moving a runner at second, she does not want to hit it hard. If she is doing a Whatley slap into the ground, then she is looking to advance herself or runner. If she is picking on second base, you want a soft slap. Hips are just one part of the slap. Where you hit it on the bat, is also important. So keep in mind each slapper above might be doing exactly what they want based on the situation. Plus look at each slapper, who is quicker out of the box? Keep in mind if you are trying to hit a single you must be 2.8 or faster to first. I do like the fact slapper #2 used the cross over type slap that is taught at the elite level. . Slapper #1 moves back before going forward, making it very difficult to power slap or change to hit for power? Slapper #1 gives up the fact she is going to slap very early in her swing. Why must of the elite players no longer use this type of slap. When it comes to coaching or teaching slapping , I suggest you read or watch the DVD that coach Candrea put out on how to play and coach small ball. It is well worth the money.
 
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Straightleg- Garry and I are friends. Just so no one gets confused on this post. Slappers do not use the hips in many of the slaps they are taught. My dd has 7 different ways she has been taught to slap. Each depends on the defense and what you are trying to accomplish. If she is power slapping or hitting for power the hips come into play. She can power slap and bounce it off the fence or hit for power like she did against Shelby high school last year. It all depends what is needed. She also works with Howard, CB, Cassie Cunningham and many others . For example if the first slapper is moving a running at second, she does not want to hit it hard. If she is doing a Whatley slap into the ground, then she is looking to advance herself or runner. If she is picking on second base, you want a soft slap. Hips are just one part of the slap. Where you hit it on the bat, is also important. So keep in mind each slapper above might be doing exactly what they want based on the situation. Plus look at each slapper, who is quicker out of the box? Keep in mind if you are tring to hit a single you must be 2.8 or faster to first. I do like the fact slapper #2 used the cross over type slap that is taught at the elite level. . Slapper #1 moves back before going forward, making if very difficult to power slap or change to hit for power? Slapper #1 gives up the fact she is going to slap very early in her swing. Why must of the elite players no longer use this type of slap.

I have to agree. My DD eliminated the back step this past fall and uses the crossover step. I found that it adds explosiveness and really gets her to top speed faster.

Also have to agree that with all the options open to slappers, it's hard to compare players. You would almost have to to find two slappers, with the same pitch count, same runners on base, same game situation, with the same call from the coach.

If I've learner one thing........slappers vary more than the weather here in Ohio, and so does their success. :).
 
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Good Post above I agree with you on slapping.



My point and only point of this post and my other thread is to use your hips for power. Most girls dont use them or use them too late.


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Power slapping, wow! If you can run up on a 57 mph pitch or faster with movement..... your head is probably bouncing somewhat and hit a bomb. That is not mechanics as much as it is a gift, that hitter is a genetically gifted athlete. She could more than likely snatch a candy cane off the Christmas tree and hit a double using it. Wow! That is impressive.

Agreed. Anyone that can go yard with a power slap is an athletic freak of nature. Your typical collegiate fastpitch athlete can't possibly do this with much success.

Len
 
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I believe the hitter on the left has better slapping mechanics IMO. She keeps her hands high, uses the crossover step, attacks straight at the pitcher, and punches an outside pitch to the left side. The hitter on the right severly drops her hands but fortunately received an inside pitch in her wheel-house, bars her lead arm, and boy did she turn on it. If that pitch was outside, chances are she either misses the ball or hits it foul due to the lack of bat coverage over the plate.

Len
 
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Len I would have to disagree with this statement: "Anyone that can go yard with a power slap is an athletic freak of nature." I have seen many that now can do this. My dd is 16 and has bounced four over the fence power slapping. Those that know her would say at 5' 4" 105 lbs she is not what you consider a freak of nature, just very fast.
Two of those were at the NFCA camp last year at 15, rest were all as a Freshman at 15.
Plus she is not the only one I have seen do this ! It is knowing how to get the most out of your body during the swing. Or as the last D1 college coach that watched her in the cage stated. " Small but mighty"
 
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Freak of nature might be strong, but I do not believe your typical collegiate slapper can go yard.

Len
 

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