Laser Nation where are the fences?

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I think whats being lost in the conversation here is the fact, not how much is it to buy fences from the start etc, but that at the 2 tournies in question Dayton Metro, and Lasers, they already had them before at both ( you could see the fences stacked in the maintenance yard at kettering field) and now they didnt bother putting them up.

Well that is a horse of a different color.

 

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You just nailed it. In addition to expense you need manpower. I was part of the crew who has installed the fences for an asa/usa sponsored by our old organization. Two years ago with soft ground was easier than last year .... 102 degrees and rock hard soil but we got it done. Six of us were able to install a fence foul line to foul line 200' arc in 45 minutes. The organization's goal is to have every field fenced and tries to purchase a new fence or two every year.

Lasers tourny not cheap to enter .... hopefuly they will make the investment in the future . They seem to have an organization large enough to make it happen.

 

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200' fences... We are talking about an arc length of approximately 315'. I can run down to Home Depot and buy Tenax 4' ft high x 100 ft. snow fence for $50/ea. Heck the bright yellow safety fence is $40/roll.
3.2 rolls of fence @ $50/ea = $160.00
Fiberglass stakes are $2.52/ea. Spaced apart every 10 feet... 32*2.52 = $80.64.

$240.64! I can supply temporary fence for $250.00-$300.00 per field. Might want to buy 200' of rope.

Granted it will take some manpower and someone smart enough to operate a tape measure. Surely every organization has someone smart enough to operate a tape measure, hammer, and a can of spray paint.

That is how they set it up at one of our local community parks works out pretty well quick up and down to open the fields back for ****** or to move back for mens.
Not like they would have to do all the fields either. I would focus on the showcase/PGF part of the tournament and do the 16s/18s and maybe some 14s

 

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Can't remeber wheer but we were at one park were the fenes looked like they were made of PVC. Looked like they built a PVC frame and then attached some netting to it. I imagine that could be done for about the cost above.

 

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PVC frames are nice but not cheap, not even close to the netted pricing above. I've worked it up before and you'd be amazed!

 

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Wolfpack uses the stakes with the netting works great for them storage is minimal quick tear down. The plastic barricades like at Berliner are a pain wind, storage etc. I don't know where you come up 20 g's, according to what was posted would be more like 2100.00 bucks for what I am talking about.

 

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Had to google snow fence and that is what I thought temporary fence was lol.

That is what we use at the local park for the rec league. takes a few hours to set it up on multiple fields and we keep it up the whole softball/baseball season.

Nothing wrong with it, I have seen similar plastic rolled fence on a number of fields.

 

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Can't remeber wheer but we were at one park were the fenes looked like they were made of PVC. Looked like they built a PVC frame and then attached some netting to it. I imagine that could be done for about the cost above.

The PVC fencing is 4X the cost of the roll up fencing 2K per field compaired to $500 for the good neting and $300 if you just ues safety neting.

Yes PVC looks neet but; as Evil Dasd stated storage, transportation and wind are big issues with theses. Last year at berliner we had parents around the outfield fencing to keep it from blowing over when we had some high wind conditions.

 

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Wolfpack uses the stakes with the netting works great for them storage is minimal quick tear down. The plastic barricades like at Berliner are a pain wind, storage etc. I don't know where you come up 20 g's, according to what was posted would be more like 2100.00 bucks for what I am talking about.

Maybe this is a dumb question but how safe are those stakes? I see them and the first thought that pops in my head is I hope an outfielder doesn't get impaled going after a fly ball.

 

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Maybe this is a dumb question but how safe are those stakes? I see them and the first thought that pops in my head is I hope an outfielder doesn't get impaled going after a fly ball.

Dumb answer... about as safe as a chain link fence. Actually, they are flexible and made out of fiberglass. With that, they could snap in half and pierce someone. I've seen girls get hit in the head with a ball too. It's all relative to the situation

 

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Dumb answer... about as safe as a chain link fence. Actually, they are flexible and made out of fiberglass. With that, they could snap in half and pierce someone. I've seen girls get hit in the head with a ball too. It's all relative to the situation

I work in construction and am trained to look for jobsite hazards. We put mushroom caps on rebar stakes for this exact reason. I cringe when I see them on a softball field. Chainlink fences, not so much, especially when they are topped with that corrugated piping. I understand all the inherent dangers of playing softball but a stake going up under your chin into your brain can kill you before you know you're hurt.

 

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Dumb answer... about as safe as a chain link fence. Actually, they are flexible and made out of fiberglass. With that, they could snap in half and pierce someone. I've seen girls get hit in the head with a ball too. It's all relative to the situation

And we are now at the liability stage of hosting a tournament. The only one that is going to win at this is the insurance company.

 

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Sure post with the netting is best and is widely used. The other design has pockets the poles slide into.

The cheapest is the poly safety fence with the fiberglas poles. You can get caps for these as well and they are used a lot in mens events but like Mad Hornet said these do have the most potential for injury from fencing.

With the size of the event"negotiating" with the city of Columbus for Berliner (that has fencing) and which would work with a college showcase since the event would be at only at one place and college coaches would not have to travel from place to place would be would be the cheapest.

If not, talking too the other current citys about stepping up could save them some cash and make the event even stronger.This event brings in a lot of revenue to the local communities in which it is taking place.
I guarantee you most local chambers would be interested in bringing in revenue to their community. The Lasers people do a great job working their fields and getting the events up running and staying on time. Having a partnership with the local city’s could help them from having to cleanup facilities, empty trash, rake/ line fields etc so, their teams can focus onthe tournament and they can still make the fundraising dollar that thetournament is designed to do.

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