More Wednesday fun...you might be a pitcher's parent.

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If your not realistic about your DD's abilities. Most parents of pitchers are like this until they play at the highest level's at 16u and then 18u (most don't get this chance) then go on to play at a pretty high level D'2 or higher college. Then you can reflect back on what you thought you thought then and just laugh.....I was that person once.

You should know better than this. You can describe a train wreck to someone all day long. And debate the pure excitement and horror of it. But until they have witnessed it first hand and experienced it , its just not realistic to the person your trying to convince.

You would probably have more luck trying to pee against 70mph wind and not get back sprayed.


Tim

 

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I agree coach. I don't think you need to justify what you know about your daughter. My daughter didn't travel all over and I've had doubters telling me what my child can or can't do. In the end I knew what my child's abilities are better than anyone and what kind of athlete she is.

 

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whoa , the all sanctions. I , and lots of others, could poke fun at you forever at the rate you are going but i'm going to try to help you out. you were polite and a good sport so I'll attempt to do the same. This , IMO , has ZERO to do with your dd and is all about you. The comments you have made are outlandish . I can say so having a dd that played with and against the very best Ohio has to offer. Players , spefically pitchers , so good they don't even play in ohio anymore. Pitchers so good they have major D-1 rides on the table at top twenty programs and several other D-1 schools. NONE of them , ZERO , currently claims that their DD's throw 7 pitches. The thought that their DD's threw 7 pitches at 12u was laughable. The claim that a 12u kid who probably is a very solid pitcher has a 86 % target hit rate is laughable. Nearly 9 out of 10 times she hits her target ?
So fastpitch brother, keep doing all the hard work. I've been there. Don't make her do it unless she pushes you to do it. it can't be your dream . Just chill out with the bragging regardless of how good she is. the pub with come with wins. sorry to offend the all sanctions but deep down inside I'd guess most top level orgs consider it no better than a local ohio tourney. Certaintly not top level competition. Go compete at ASA/USA nationals , or try your luck at a Premier qualifier. Play up as 12u's at 16u . again IMO my advice would never mention your DD's abilty's again. Pitchers dad have rightfully or wrongfully earned a big reputation. When you carrying on very publically about her skills you are asking to be ridiculed. Fairly or unfairly thats reality. so set back , relax , and enjoy the ride. in two blinks it will all be over. hope I helped , not intended to talk down to you . MD

 

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Great advice for any parent, MD.

 

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This would be a good time for part of a post from another thread

Let me explain:

:cap:

It helped me deal with all of the overboard parents.

You know the parents of the 11u girls with 9 pitches that are all wicked.
The coaches with that "special" radar gun. The one that you need to add three miles to (because it is slow), and then another two because you are pitching inside
The parents of the girl who was an OK pitcher on a great team, who later wonders why dd is getting crushed when the tables are finally even.

VFSP coach believe me, if your dd is that good you will not need to tell anyone.

 

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Exactly!!! A wise man once told me "if you are good you don't need to tell anyone, they will be telling everyone for you"

 

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But until they have witnessed it first hand and experienced it , its just not realistic to the person your trying to convince.

Your 100% dead on here.....gosh I hate admitting when your right...

 

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whoa , the all sanctions. I , and lots of others, could poke fun at you forever at the rate you are going but i'm going to try to help you out. you were polite and a good sport so I'll attempt to do the same. This , IMO , has ZERO to do with your dd and is all about you. The comments you have made are outlandish . I can say so having a dd that played with and against the very best Ohio has to offer. Players , spefically pitchers , so good they don't even play in ohio anymore. Pitchers so good they have major D-1 rides on the table at top twenty programs and several other D-1 schools. NONE of them , ZERO , currently claims that their DD's throw 7 pitches. The thought that their DD's threw 7 pitches at 12u was laughable. The claim that a 12u kid who probably is a very solid pitcher has a 86 % target hit rate is laughable. Nearly 9 out of 10 times she hits her target ?
So fastpitch brother, keep doing all the hard work. I've been there. Don't make her do it unless she pushes you to do it. it can't be your dream . Just chill out with the bragging regardless of how good she is. the pub with come with wins. sorry to offend the all sanctions but deep down inside I'd guess most top level orgs consider it no better than a local ohio tourney. Certaintly not top level competition. Go compete at ASA/USA nationals , or try your luck at a Premier qualifier. Play up as 12u's at 16u . again IMO my advice would never mention your DD's abilty's again. Pitchers dad have rightfully or wrongfully earned a big reputation. When you carrying on very publically about her skills you are asking to be ridiculed. Fairly or unfairly thats reality. so set back , relax , and enjoy the ride. in two blinks it will all be over. hope I helped , not intended to talk down to you . MD

Excellent Post MD.

 

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...We chose to play more local at this age but she did only give up 4 runs in 3 games last season at the all sanction ws...so please dont discredit someone you dont know about...thank you

whoa , the all sanctions. I , and lots of others, could poke fun at you forever at the rate you are going but i'm going to try to help you out. sorry to offend the all sanctions but deep down inside I'd guess most top level orgs consider it no better than a local ohio tourney. Certaintly not top level competition. Go compete at ASA/USA nationals , or try your luck at a Premier qualifier. Play up as 12u's at 16u . again IMO my advice would never mention your DD's abilty's again. Pitchers dad have rightfully or wrongfully earned a big reputation. MD

I'd have to agree with ManitouDan here. The All-Sanction WS is certainly NOT the pinnacle of fastpitch. When the time comes that only 3 runs are given up in four games at Laser Nation, Stingrays, or something like ASA State, then the recognition will surely come.

When the claim is made about seven pitches at 12U, the red flags are certainly going to be raised. It's just part of the territory. Another red flag from another post from VSFPcoach is the 49 mph speed. It's decent at 12U, but certainly nothing spectacular. The elite pitchers at that level are above that, and have the command of the probably 3-4 pitches they have in their arsenal.

 

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Ok...Im done with this argument...I just dont understand why its so hard to believe that a 12u cant in no way shape or form throw 7 different pitches when its only 3 different hand releases and the rest has to do with followthru. Maybe she is more talented than I originally thought if this is so unbelievable. I have been always humble about her skill and have thought of playing her up before but dont think she has the speed for the older girls. Her spin and array of pitches is her strength and her accuracy is pretty amazing. Not knowing exactly but last year she maybe walked less than 10 batters all year and we played in 8 tourneys and a league. I understand you might not believe her accuracy but since she picked up a ball she has had it. I started pitching with her when she was 7 and in the local rec league she was more accurate than 12 year olds. We are a very conservatiive christian family and I have always been humble on her skills, but when you attack me for no reason...I will fire back. Once again, I'm done with this but if you would like to see her throw, you are welcomed to. This kid works her butt off and loves this game and I didn't think it was so bad to express how proud of her I am. I'm not new to this game, I do have an older daughter in HS that used to play but gave it up for other passions, so please don't discredit me or my family. Believe what you must, maybe we will see ya at the diamonds next year, and you can see for yourself. 1-drop, 2-off speed drop, 3-circle change, 4-curve, 5-rise, 6-curve/rise, 7-screw...GOD BLESS!!!

 

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Ok...Im done with this argument...I just dont understand why its so hard to believe that a 12u cant in no way shape or form throw 7 different pitches when its only 3 different hand releases and the rest has to do with followthru. Maybe she is more talented than I originally thought if this is so unbelievable. I have been always humble about her skill and have thought of playing her up before but dont think she has the speed for the older girls. Her spin and array of pitches is her strength and her accuracy is pretty amazing. Not knowing exactly but last year she maybe walked less than 10 batters all year and we played in 8 tourneys and a league. I understand you might not believe her accuracy but since she picked up a ball she has had it. I started pitching with her when she was 7 and in the local rec league she was more accurate than 12 year olds. We are a very conservatiive christian family and I have always been humble on her skills, but when you attack me for no reason...I will fire back. Once again, I'm done with this but if you would like to see her throw, you are welcomed to. This kid works her butt off and loves this game and I didn't think it was so bad to express how proud of her I am. I'm not new to this game, I do have an older daughter in HS that used to play but gave it up for other passions, so please don't discredit me or my family. Believe what you must, maybe we will see ya at the diamonds next year, and you can see for yourself. 1-drop, 2-off speed drop, 3-circle change, 4-curve, 5-rise, 6-curve/rise, 7-screw...GOD BLESS!!!

Don't listen to all those other posters. I'm looking forward to watching your daughter in about 6 years at Arizona playing for coach Candrea. at 12, she allready has 4 more pitches then their ace. Good Luck to you and your DD.

 

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Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!!! Reality Distortion Field ahead. :lmao:

 

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vsp-- I've caught more than one girl that poppa says has 4, 5 or 6 or if there are full of stuff they might even claim 7 or 8 or 9 pitches .... Dad calls them off and nearly every pitch looks identical to the fastball . (obviously not talking about the change.) Just because you call a pitch a curve or a rise doesnt actually mean it curves or rises. You can call it one all you want. You just look foolish. People on here that have been around top flight players far longer than you and been exposed to far far many high level pitchers are telling you to calm it down with your rhetoric because you obviously have lost your objectivity. I'll ask this did she lose a game last season ? there should be NO WAY she could have ... 7 pitches, command of all of them, averages less than 1 walk a game . How in the world is a 12u kid supposed to hit that , after all , 8.6 pitches out of ten are on the black --right ? last question ---when you call for # 7 does the catcher take off her glove to have two hands available .... God Bless you too. I'm as conservative and Christian as they come. God also gave me a huge extra dose of "sense of Humor" I hope he did you too.. MD

 

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If the site of a 2004 Rocket Tech makes you check your dental insurance...you may be a pitcher's parent.

 

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Quit Justifying...I had a One on One chat with Doug Finch...All pitches can be taught off of THREE ways of "cluching the ball". And at the same time....


I have had coaches walk off the field without shaking my hand or my DDs...classy right? Because her 4 days a week (one week off at Christmas) workouts have made her what she is and I allowed her to pitch a full game against them. BTW...I am a Mom on the Bucket. Her Dad taught her her swing!!! But I bet I they hate her at 10u and will hate her at 12u too.

Thats what we get for hard work these days...I don't care who she plays for when she decides to grow up. I just want her to love the only game that you get to think about what you can do before you let go of the ball. And I hope that what she does after...she loves just as much.

JMHO

 

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I guess it is just an exchange between a parent of a 12U who is pitching well and hundreds of parents who have heard this story a hundred times before, by girls who end up playing field hockey by the time they are 14.

VSFPcoach I wish you and your dd the best. Make sure you keep it fun for her. Fastpitch is a blast, enjoy the ride!

 

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sorry to you if you viewed my post as an attack.. not intended that way at all, MD

 

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--If you are shooting video, because you are going to "prove" to your dd that her mechanics are wrong...

--If you find your muscles tightening, and foot slightly dragging as you are following your dd's motion...

--If your heart is racing with bases loaded and a 3-2 count, even though you are winning big...

--If you're wondering what kind of ride home you will have...:lmao:

 

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Hey all...I'm not angry with anyone. This thread was originated from a prior thread about what role at pitching practice. When I stated that her 3rd coach has taught her more than her previous 2 combined, the outlandish began. I was bragging on her coach not my DD. Then it turned to myself and my DD. I never said her rise went 49 nor any other particular pitch. Her top speed was 43 at 11u then this october she was clocked at 49 on her dropball. I know other DDs throw harder but my DD is a late bloomer and hasn't hit puberty yet, think its just around the corner. So this age group can fluctuate depending on how quick they mature. I would never brag nor boast about her but everyone took what I said about her instructor and turned it to her. Her ball does move and she has outstanding control. I havent called fastball down the middle since she was 10. Now if I was to fudge her in any way, why wouldn't I claim that she throws in the 50s like I've seen before at 12u. Last year she done well at 11 but it takes all 9 on the field to win the game. I'm just glad that I haven't mentioned that she swings both ways too. Currently working to get her exclusively lefty, so please don't start another post. This kid has never played any other sport cause she loves fastpitch. Therefor, she has practiced on the average 3-5 days a week,every week, since she was 7. There is no offseason for us, unless you want to count 2 weeks for christmas. I know exposer will come as she gets older, so we are not worried about the A top shelf tourneys now. This year we are playing in 6 qualifiers out of 8 tourneys so hopefully we will meet. Its time to take it to next level cause I feel that our team can compete with the big dogs now. Remember, it is a team sport. Just because I'm new to OFC doesn't mean I'm new to this game. See ya in the spring.

 

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Quit Justifying...I had a One on One chat with Doug Finch...All pitches can be taught off of THREE ways of "cluching the ball". And at the same time....


I have had coaches walk off the field without shaking my hand or my DDs...classy right? Because her 4 days a week (one week off at Christmas) workouts have made her what she is and I allowed her to pitch a full game against them. BTW...I am a Mom on the Bucket. Her Dad taught her her swing!!! But I bet I they hate her at 10u and will hate her at 12u too.

Thats what we get for hard work these days...I don't care who she plays for when she decides to grow up. I just want her to love the only game that you get to think about what you can do before you let go of the ball. And I hope that what she does after...she loves just as much.

JMHO

well said...thank you....we just might have sisters from another mother.