Pitching and Pitchers Discussion No they don't!!

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I agree with that statement.

 

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That was definitely a slowpitch rule ... I have definitely seen it called in fastpitch as well though, but has been a few years ... Bretman, was there such a rule and did it get changed?

 

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Could be that she girl steps onto the plate with the ball in her glove, neved showing it before the pitch. Saw this last year and the ump called it a few times then quit calling it.

That drove me crazy! Either call it or don't.

The best thing parents can do isa find a coach who teaches proper mechanics so they don't run into trouble down the road.

And umps please make the necessary calls regarding leaping etc. If its a rule call it.

 

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She doesn't HAVE to show it before the pitch. It can be in her glove OR in her hand, just not both. That is what I am trying to say.

 

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I believe that this rule was modified/clarified 6 or 7 years ago as someone already posted. It now reads that the hands need to be separated or something to that effect. This is one of those obscure old rules that you can use to either check the blues knowledge of the rules or get in a pitchers head.

I actually used it to get a pitcher out of her groove this past summer at 18u, as bad as that sounds. The blue didn't know the rule and approached the pitcher, but her coaches did know and came flying out of the dugout. Either way, mission accomplished. My next batter was the beneficiary of all the huba-baloo and it carried on through the line-up. Shame on me!!

 

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Okay breathe chystle. My point was not that a pitcher has to show the ball. I was simply relaying an experience where even the umpire appeared confused last season by making a call against a pitcher, more than once, and then not calling the pitch.

Maybe that wasn't made clear. In any case, the inconsistency of umpires can be equally frustrating.

 

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Ok just to stir the pot...does she keep her hands together no less than one second and no more than 10 seconds ? because that IS a rule which could be called alot, but I've never seen called.

 

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My goodness, just let the kids play softball. Back about 6-8 years ago when my DD was in 12u and 14u all we did was play great knock down drag out softball. Nowadays it seems everybody has to whine about every little thing. Parents, just relax and let your kids play ball, it will be much less stressfull and a lot more fun.....just saying....

 

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I don't think it is necessarily whining as much as people asking that the game be played by the rules. In addition if someone wants to challenge a rule, know what the rule is first.

And, in my experience softball seems to be similar now as compared to 5 or 6 years ago with the exception of having a few more teams around.

 

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Ok just to stir the pot...does she keep her hands together no less than one second and no more than 10 seconds ? because that IS a rule which could be called alot, but I've never seen called.

What does that have to do with the original post? And she falls within the time guidelines.

 

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The only time I would complain is if the pitcher was getting the best of my team and I used it to mentally challenge her. We had one pitcher this past weekend who had one foot on the rubber and the other 12"+ behind the rubber. She also was in her motion before the batter even stepped into the box. Ump didn't call anything nor was I in a hurry she was rushing herself and pitching like ****.

 

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I just asked my 13U dd, and she goes pitcher can have the ball in her glove as long as the hands are not together. Once she steps on the rubber, she cannot take that ball out of her glove and bring it back in.

 

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The only time I would complain is if the pitcher was getting the best of my team and I used it to mentally challenge her. We had one pitcher this past weekend who had one foot on the rubber and the other 12"+ behind the rubber. She also was in her motion before the batter even stepped into the box. Ump didn't call anything nor was I in a hurry she was rushing herself and pitching like ****.

If this was spring or summer, I may have to jump on that one (unless the girl is young and learning).

 

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What does that have to do with the original post? And she falls within the time guidelines.

This has something to do with the first post and I ask because it is a bit unclear to me. Once your dd comes in contact with the pitching plate, what is the very next thing she does?

Len

 

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Puts her hand in her glove. Then she takes a deep breath (simulating taking a sign), then proceeds with the rest of her motion.

 

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According to ASA, she must keep her hands apart while simulating a sign, then put the hands together.

From the ASA rule book:
D. While on the pitcher’s plate, the pitcher shall take the signal or appear to
take a signal with the hands separated. The ball must remain in either the
glove or pitching hand.

E. The pitcher shall bring the hands together for not less than one second and
not more than 10 seconds before releasing it

Len

 

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Now that you have pointed that out, I asked her to run through how she pitches. She stands behind the rubber with the ball in her glove tucked up to her shoulder, her other hand at her side. Then she steps on the rubber and rubs her hand on her pants (why? I have no idea). Then she brings her glove/ball down to her right side and puts her hand in to get her grip and proceeds to go through her pitch.

Lenski, she says you are a smart person...lol.

 

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What does that have to do with the original post? And she falls within the time guidelines.

What I was bringing to light was the fact that there are some very specific rules set forth by ASA, USSSA, etc about the pitching motion. I know you were having issues with people THINKING like they know the rules when they don't. There are also some rules that aren't followed even though the are clearly spelled out. I have mentioned in previous posts that my own DD does not comply with the 1 second rule, and very few pitcher's I see do. But its not called. Same with replants. So I wouldn't freak out about someone not knowing the rules. Just know them yourself and when the issue presents itself, you or your DD's coach can set them straight.

 

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Now that you have pointed that out, I asked her to run through how she pitches. She stands behind the rubber with the ball in her glove tucked up to her shoulder, her other hand at her side. Then she steps on the rubber and rubs her hand on her pants (why? I have no idea). Then she brings her glove/ball down to her right side and puts her hand in to get her grip and proceeds to go through her pitch.

Lenski, she says you are a smart person...lol.

Then what she's doing as far as pitching is correct, but saying I'm a smart person....well people that know me would have a different opinion...lol.

Len

 

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She doesn't realize that you are a trouble maker of epic proportions... :lmao:

See, she knows what she should be doing better than I do. Smart kid I have there...lol.