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NSA tournament. ?Runner on second, wild pitch hits plate, then hits catcher, then goes over the backstop. ?Runner on second is only awarded third. ?Umpire explains that since it was a "Pitched" ball, then only one base is awarded.
later in game, runner on first, wild pitch hits dirt in front of plate, hits catchers mitt, then rolls out of play into a dugout. ?Runner only awarded second base. Umpires give the same explaination.
NSA rule for a Pitched ball out of play is:
My understanding of "directly" is that the pitcher throws a pitch that, without hitting any player, umpire, or equipment, goes out of play (She throws it over the backstop or the ball hits the front lip of the plate and takes off over the backstop).
My contention is that in the above situations, the ball indirectly went out of play after hitting the catcher. ?The defense had an opportunity to field the pitch but could not. ?Why penalize the offense?
I believe that this is the rule that should be applyed in this situation:
What is the concensus?
later in game, runner on first, wild pitch hits dirt in front of plate, hits catchers mitt, then rolls out of play into a dugout. ?Runner only awarded second base. Umpires give the same explaination.
NSA rule for a Pitched ball out of play is:
h. When any pitched ball goes [highlight]directly[/highlight] out of play (through, over, under fence/backstop).
EFFECT: The ball is dead and all runners advance one base from the time of the pitch.
My understanding of "directly" is that the pitcher throws a pitch that, without hitting any player, umpire, or equipment, goes out of play (She throws it over the backstop or the ball hits the front lip of the plate and takes off over the backstop).
My contention is that in the above situations, the ball indirectly went out of play after hitting the catcher. ?The defense had an opportunity to field the pitch but could not. ?Why penalize the offense?
I believe that this is the rule that should be applyed in this situation:
e. When the ball is in play and is overthrown (beyond the established
boundary lines), or is blocked.
EFFECT: Awarded bases shall be determined by the position of the baserunner(s) at the time of the infraction. All base runners will be allowed to advance one (1) base on a pitched ball that goes directly out of play.
NOTE: For offensive equipment causing a blocked ball, the runner closest to home plate will be declared out and all other runners must return to the last base touched when the ball becomes blocked.
[highlight]1. The ball is dead. In all cases where a thrown ball goes into the spectators seats, goes over, through, or under any fence surrounding the playing field. Or hits any person or object not engaged in the game, goes into the players? benches, including bats lying near benches, whether the ball rebounds onto the playing field or not; or remains in the meshes of any wire screen, each and every baserunnner shall be awarded two (2) bases.[/highlight]
What is the concensus?