NWO Spring league 2009

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LOL Irish, but I'm voting for who ever gives Youth softball the largest pork barrel enducement! Seriously though, we are hosting this league to promote competitiveness at the youth level, and to provide teams with a quality venue to play at, with no hassle of scheduling umps and balls. Rolf park and LCRC are known for their quality complexes, and seem to be fairly centrally located for most teams. www.premiersportingevents.net mark@premiersportingevents.net for more info.

 

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wanted to Clarify, the VAST majority of teams in the league will be community teams, that's why 2 divisions were created: 1 division to accomodate travel teams also, and community teams that wanted to play travel teams. Second division will be only community teams We are receiving interest and registration already! Please remember this league is limited to 30 teams due to field availability. thanks, mark www.premiersportingevents.net or mark@permiersportingevents.net

 

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I always liked the idea of Junior high teams representing their own communities. It was always a great venue for average ball players to play along side travel players and encouraged more kids to participate in High School. This league has the potential to kill Junior high ball by depleteting all the pitching and taking away much of the talent and ensuring that less experienced girls never get to play against better talent. I would think most High Scool coaches would be against this type of league. Sounds more like a Travel coach ego trip to me. What's the point?

 

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I believe the FAST Spring league is set up to keep the community girls playing together before they separate during the summer into travel and rec teams. The idea behind spring ball is to get these Jr. Hi kids some experience playing together before they enter the high school softball program. High school teams are not always comprised of strictly travel ball kids.

I agree - taking the pitchers and catchers and other studs away from the Jr. High spring league to play with their travel teams will surely hurt the community teams that are trying to prepare their girls for high school ball.

I would hope that the parents and community team coaches are savvy enough to realize this.

 

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I can understand that some folks want something different. There are always those who think something isn't right for them. It is simply impossible to keep everyone happy all of the time. However, I too, am concerned that we will only dillute the talent pool and make it impossible to get the best competition for all. I would STRONGLY encourage all of the organizations to work together to improve what we have and make the biggest and best league around, rather than dividing the kids up. Think about it....What if we had 7 different leagues? Would that be better yet?

 

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Sure seems odd that anything that competes with a certain organization creates lots of negative comments from certain posters. BUT Please understand: this concept came about FROM high school coaches, who wanted to have good access for their feeder schools to play at a guaranteed site, without the hassle of securing and preparing fields, securing umps and providing balls. As of now NO travel teams have registered, but several communities teams have. How can OPTIONS be a bad thing for the communities? How can this dilute the pitching catching pool? We are promoting Community teams entering this league. The old spring league had 80 teams, do people think they all played each other? This league will have a 30 team max of equally competitive teams. This will be a QUALITY run program, as evidenced by our endorsements and other events we run. . When coaches mentioned they'd like to see this format we decided to bring it forth. This New Spring league Mirrors how the current fall league operates, BUT is cheaper and has better services. For 695.00 we'll provide some of the best quality fields in NWO with a HIGH probability of their ground crews getting fields playable for games, provide sanctioning fees that teams can use all year, provide 2 umps and balls, along with fully functional concession stands and restroom facilities. We are in no way knocking the old spring league format and what they charge and provide and don't provide. Why can't each community decide what's best for them, like 4 already have?

 

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Premier - is there a list of the teams that have signed up for your spring league?

 

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4 communities [some have mulitiple teams] have registered. This early we are encouraged by that. Our mission was to try to offer this TOTALLY differnet format, and if there was not sufficient number of teams interested to create a quality league, we'd refer them else where. From the initial response, we are hopefull we'll meet our 30 team goal. if you need more info, please feel free to contact me mark@premiersportingevents.net

 

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is there a list of the communities that have signed up?

 

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yes blue sky there is.

 

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He's not telling who.... It's a secret. I just don't understand why leagues, coaches , etc. can't work together. I guess we are all just a competetive bunch, by nature....too bad.

 

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Will you share that list Premier?

 

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We're all so quick to judge, by nature. If it works, great. If not, oh well. Let the communities decide.

 

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We do not need to wait. The answers are clear from recent history when we had many of these same adults involved and the result created two different summer leagues. My daughter's team experienced first hand the dilution of talent because the teams (communities) were split between the two leagues. Also, look at Indy Car as your guide. Two leagues drove the folks away! The NWO softball public is not being fooled and we understand what is happening here! It is a darn shame. I have respect for the people involved on both sides.

The communities better realize that Spring ball was created because the schools did not offer a junior high program. This is the one season where the travel girls can come together with the other players from their school to begin to build toward high school play. I have no doubt that the majority of high school coaches would say this makes sense. Travel ball can wait until late May.

I was just talking tonight with a respected coach/parent who thinks we all better be careful and let our daughters be apart of living a life beyond softball. The junior high and high school years will pass quickly. Let this be a season they can have fun and learn with their school mates.

 

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Good post Hardwork, this is why we are not involved with either of the two spoken organizations. We see through all the smoke.

 

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SylvaniaSharksblue, that is a great post. I dont agree with your stance, BUT, every post on here except from you has been from either a Wizards slappy or a Magic Slappy. You are clearly neither and did not elevate one organization over the other. Best post on this thread.

Hardwork, I find your dilution of talent statement a very interesting point. That has been the knock on the Wizards in this area for quite sometime, that with so many teams they dilute the talent. They think they are giving kids that normally wouldnt have the chance to play a chance to play. ( I happen to agree with the Wizards in that regard)

I have a strong feeling those against this league are somehow connected to FAST and those that support are somehow connected to the Magic. Meanwhile, I bet 90% of the coaches who dont have a dog in the fight, would say they prefer choices and are confident in their abilities to choose what is the best fit for their team. I dont see how having 2 leagues would somehow block kids from still having fun with their schoolmates.

 

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Thanks Uber. We simply made our choice to stay out of it and try to find the best quality team in a different organization. We don't all have to agree, it is the great thing about the country that we live in!

Wish our team (13U) well this year in the 14U division. We did well as a 12U team last year.

 

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Uber:

I am talking about dilution of team talent when some communities play in one and some communities play in another. This did happen. If some of the "Gold" teams play in one league and some play in another this will be the result. As for the Wizards offering an opportunity for young ladies who otherwise may not get a chance to learn and get better, I also highly support that opportunity.

I understand and agree that the communities may decide. I am just offering my thoughts regarding the pitfalls of having two. I do not care really who runs Spring.

I do feel strongly about Spring ball being a building block which brings travel ball players to play with their school mates to build for high school. Just pointing out that one of the reasons billed for starting the new league is increased competition and wanted everyone to consider how or if this would really happen?

Trying to make people think...wish they would do that during this election cycle as well.

 

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now those comments are appreciated. I have had connections with both FAST and SGS from playing in BOTH organizations leagues. I did what FAST did, saw a market need, and am exploring it. There were 80 teams last spring. They don't all play each other. 3 different h.s. coaches from around the area, said a site based league, the same as the current fall league, would be something that would be a good idea. One of the coach's, has to prepare the fields, line up the umps etc. and indicated it was hard during their own h.s. season. They also mentioned, traveling all over and providing maps etc. was a hassle, everyone knows where Rolf/LCRC is located, near most major highways and would be easy to send their teams to. Every negatitive comment on this informational thread is by the other organization. NOBODY has posted negative comments about their league.Their summer format it's the same format SGS uses for summer ball, which is ok with me, but it's not what I'm offering. Here, just like in politics, people throw out negatives and false claims, and if nobody responds, you look guilty. To COMMUNITIES: I promise anything PSEO does will meet this criteria: 1. Meets a need 2. Is better then what's out there 3. is cheaper.
If any community is interested in references, contact me, I have run tournaments, leagues and organizations, I'm happy to have you talk to those about their experience.
sincerely, Mark mark@premiersportingevents.net www.premiersportingevents.net

 

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My only concern is that the competition is the right competition. This should have nothing to do with Wizards/SGS/Sharks, or whoever. The idea of having all games at Rolf/LCRC is fine, (and who can argue with lower fees!) but let's get all the school-affiliated teams in one league. Or at least get all the leagues playing together....NLL teams vs NLL teams, etc. If we are going to make separate leagues, let's get some organization here. It doesn't matter who runs which league, but as I said before, let's work together, not against one another. I have no doubt that Premier Sports can run a fantastic league, but that's not the issue.