Pitching and Pitchers Discussion Pitching Question

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Hello,

I have two questions:

1. A pitcher pitches the first three innings, and is replaced when the team is up 3-2. Second pitcher goes in and pitches the final four innings. The final score is 12-11. Which pitcher gets the win? I have always thought the second pitcher would get the win. Am I wrong?

2. What are the qualifications for a save?
 
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did team two ever take the lead? if so then pitcher two gets the win otherwise pitcher one gets the win.

A save opportunity occurs when the tying run comes to the plate.
 
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Is 3 innings enough to get the first pitcher a win? 3 innings is not an official game yet. In the majors the pitcher has to pitch 5 innings before they can qualify for a victory...even if they are in the lead.
 
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This is from the NFHS Rule book on Pitching Records. The second pitcher gets the win by default because the first pitcher did not pitch the majority of the innings.

ART. 6 . . . Winning and losing pitchers are determined as follows:

a. The starting pitcher is credited with a win in the following circumstances:

1. When she pitches at least half of the innings in the game and her team stays ahead for the remainder of the game.

2. When she pitches the required number of innings, her team is ahead or tied when she is replaced, she re-enters the game with her team behind, and her team subsequently recaptures the lead.

NOTE: A pitcher cannot receive credit for a save if she receives the win.

b. The relief pitcher is credited with a win in the following circumstances:

1. The starting pitcher did not pitch the required number of innings, or her team fell behind.

2. The relief pitcher who pitches most effectively after the starting pitcher did not pitch the required number of innings, more than one relief pitcher was used and the lead was never lost.

3. The relief pitcher was the pitcher of record when her team gained the lead and stayed in the lead.

4. A relief pitcher left the pitching position while the score was tied or her team was behind, and she re-entered as the pitcher and regained the lead.

c. If a pitcher is replaced by a pinch hitter or a pinch runner, the runs scored by the team during the inning of removal are to be credited to that pitcher’s benefit for deciding the pitcher of record when the team takes the lead.

d. A pitcher shall be charged with the loss when the team is behind or falls behind because of runs assessed to that pitcher and the team does not subsequently tie the score nor take the lead.

e. A pitcher cannot be given credit for pitching a shutout if the pitcher does not pitch the complete game, unless the player enters the game with no one out before the opponents have scored in the first inning and she does not permit the opposition to score during the game.

ART. 7 . . . In order for a pitcher to be credited with a save, she shall meet all three of the following criteria:

a. she is the last pitcher in a game won by her team; and

b. she is not the winning pitcher; and

c. she meets at least one of the following:

1. she enters the game with a lead of not more than three runs and pitches at least one inning; or

2. she enters the game, regardless of the count on the batter, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck; or

3. she pitches effectively for at least three innings.

NOTE: A starting pitcher who is replaced and then re-enters as pitcher can be credited with a win but not a save.
 
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The visiting team tied in the fourth and took the lead in the fifth.

In the save situation, the pitcher came in the game with one out in the seventh, runners on first and second, and tying run up to bat.

Would these rules be the same for NCAA?
 
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I do not have the NCAA rules here but I would say that it does qualify for a save.
 

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