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Trying to put together a player profile for my DD. Have seen some nice formats but can anbody post templates for use?
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Google "fastpitch player profiles"
You'll get a TON - but a few things to remember:
1) College coaches have limited time, so keep it easy to read - less is more.
2) Avoid going overboard on stats - coaches know they aren't accurate. Also avoid bragging on pitch speed - unless you know beyond any doubt that your DD can back it up. Stretching the truth leaves a bad taste, and will probably disqualify her in the coaches mind. If you're not sure - LEAVE IT OUT!
3) Photo, travel team jersey #, position, home address, email address, NCAA Clearinghouse status, GPA (forget class rank - it's irrelevant and subjective), service awards, summer schedule (if available).
4) I suggest if you do it in Microsoft Word, create a PDF of the profile and send it to the coach as an email attachment. That way they have a copy and can print it if they so desire. This even beats a web site, because at tournaments the coaches may not always have internet access if they want to see your profile.
5) KEEP IT SIMPLE!! Avoid fancy fonts and cute graphics. Neat, organized and easy to read is the best bet.
You'll get a TON - but a few things to remember:
1) College coaches have limited time, so keep it easy to read - less is more.
2) Avoid going overboard on stats - coaches know they aren't accurate. Also avoid bragging on pitch speed - unless you know beyond any doubt that your DD can back it up. Stretching the truth leaves a bad taste, and will probably disqualify her in the coaches mind. If you're not sure - LEAVE IT OUT!
3) Photo, travel team jersey #, position, home address, email address, NCAA Clearinghouse status, GPA (forget class rank - it's irrelevant and subjective), service awards, summer schedule (if available).
4) I suggest if you do it in Microsoft Word, create a PDF of the profile and send it to the coach as an email attachment. That way they have a copy and can print it if they so desire. This even beats a web site, because at tournaments the coaches may not always have internet access if they want to see your profile.
5) KEEP IT SIMPLE!! Avoid fancy fonts and cute graphics. Neat, organized and easy to read is the best bet.
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Good advice Sammy.
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Go to some of the 18U team sites. You will see what Sammy is talking about. Most have profile sheets.
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Maybe times have changed but we have been asked by 3/4 of the colleges that have contacted us about class rankings, If a student is at a certain % that with her GPA can assist in scholership money if her ACT/SAT isnt as high as you would like. we just took the most often asked questions , and either added or deleated what we thought they wanted, definatly no on the stats.
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Ditto Bouldersdad. From what I've seen most of the school's on-line questionairres are asking for GPA and Class Rank. Would suggest filling those out in addition to developing a player profile.
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I attended a college seminar at our high school for college prep juniors the other evening. Our high school is no longer calculating class ranking, and a lot of the major colleges are gradually following suit, putting CORE GPA, ACT and SAT scores as primary academic gauges. Why? Because class rank is simply too subjective. It's similar to using a grading curve - success becomes a factor weighted towards the lowest common denominator. If your school has a small and "underachieving" student body, your child has a much greater opportunity to be in the top percentile of class rank. However, for students taking more advanced classes in a college prep geared program, that curve takes a different shape.
Think about it. Let's say your profile says you're in the top 3% of the student body, but you list an ACT composite score of 21. What does that tell a coach? Now if that same ACT was 27 or 28, you'd have a statistic that makes sense.
Not to be harsh, but if class rank was all that important and made a difference in whether my kids got accepted into a college program or not, I would have sent my kids to an inner-city school long ago.
Think about it. Let's say your profile says you're in the top 3% of the student body, but you list an ACT composite score of 21. What does that tell a coach? Now if that same ACT was 27 or 28, you'd have a statistic that makes sense.
Not to be harsh, but if class rank was all that important and made a difference in whether my kids got accepted into a college program or not, I would have sent my kids to an inner-city school long ago.
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Maybe it is going the way of the dodo bird,I realy dont know im not a expert at college recruiting. all i know is what we have been asked, guess i can tell all the colleges that have asked me if they realy think its a valad request lol... :lmao:
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Class ranking has been on every request that we have got. They are Divn 3 schools , since she is a Freshman and we make them NA, just like the test scores.
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Our HS does not calculate Class Rank either. It's a political thing at our school, lots of great grades can make a pretty good GPA seem mediocre via rank.
But, yes, most on-line and paper profiles ask for it. N/A .... all the way!
But, yes, most on-line and paper profiles ask for it. N/A .... all the way!
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I believe Colleges that focus or want Class Rank do so because they are focusing on Acedemics first, and believe me, if your dd is not coming from one of TOP 100 Academic high schools in the country, then they will focus on ACT/SAT. Every Coach/AD is looking for Academic Money to help their program.
However, if your DD is coming from a Top Tier acedemic school, and she is a 28+ ACT and Top 5% of her class, THEY KNOW, she will get LARGE ACADEMIC money which makes her that much more desirable recruit.
If your DD goes to a less then favorable Academic HS, then you BETTER be preparing for the ACT/SAT to provide an extremely sound Educational case for additional money.
THOSE WHO PREPARE ON ALL FRONTS, ARE MOST PREPARED. AND THEREFORE, WILL HAVE THE MOST OPPORTUNITIES.
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OK - you can label ME the Dodo bird! After checking several college team websites that have online questionnaires, I stand corrected! 
Every single one I checked did indeed request class rank.
SO - I apologize for posting incorrect and misleading information! As a side note, some of them even requested shoe size (???)
In the process, I discovered an excellent resource for exactly what to put on a player recruiting profile. Just copy what is listed in the online recruiting questionnaires.
Every single one I checked did indeed request class rank.
SO - I apologize for posting incorrect and misleading information! As a side note, some of them even requested shoe size (???)
In the process, I discovered an excellent resource for exactly what to put on a player recruiting profile. Just copy what is listed in the online recruiting questionnaires.
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Im a little confused at how class ranking is political........... its numbers and numbers dont lie, your gpa vs how many kids are in your school.......... its no different than your next grade testing comparing you to every other student in your grade telling you where you stand............. life was so much friggin easier years ago lol
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Hey BD.. I think those at highly recognized acedemic schools are stating that being #1 class at inner city school is NOT comparable to being #1 at St. Ignatius Cleveland. And I would agree.
However, the Colleges that put weight on RANK, certainly understand that, and more so have a WEIGHTED system that has EVERY HS on a totem pole as a TOP, Above Average, Average, Below Average, Poor.... Academic School.
So, to those Colleges who want to know school RANK, it only matters if your coming from a school in which it would matter.
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The ranking is not comparing st agnus school of the poor to rich boy central,,,,,,,, the ranking is done per individual, per school.......... its not to rank your school compared to others but to let a college coach know how you rank compared to your piers. It can help with academic money. and in the end thats what matters....
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Ok... Maybe at some level(ie: Ohio or other small school.....), but beleive me, if Notre Dame is asking for class rank, it doesn't mean a whole lot if you tell them DD is #1 at xxxxxxxx Inner City Public School Cincinnati Ohio(Unless it is WALNUT HILLS). They are looking for top 5% in the academic hotbed across america. NO DOUBT. Don't want to even look at or waste time with someone that is vala dictorean at Cleveland Inner City Public Shool XYZ)
Been there done that. They Know exactly what they are looking for. Bottom line is ,,, to justify the Acedemic $, it must come from a seriously prestigous Acedemic background. SIMPLE!
There's a reason I moved into the HIGHEST TAXING COUNTY IN OHIO. SCHOOL DISTRICT RATINGS.... THAT IS IT... Class ranking elsewhere really doesn't matter.
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Not being combative or hard headed about this but I dont understand. What Level is it that is out of range for any child that dosent live in a area that has the highest tax rate? Big 10, SEC? Both of these level schools have been courting my dd and both have asked for her GPA, ACT/SAT and class ranking. And both made very nice offers by only having her GPA and class ranking as her ACT scores wernt back. She has chosen a Private D1 University that had stricter admission standards than either the big 10 or SEC school, and offerd her A package we couldent refuse on her GPA and class ranking alone. And we do not live in the highest taxed area in ohio,although at times it feels that way.
Maybe what you speak of has an effect if a child is looking for an ivy league school, ie: Harvard, Yale and so on....... but if they were going there I can almost guarentee you their ACT would be top of their class along with their class ranking.
Like I stated in an earlier post I appreciate your ambition to move Ohio into the elite status For some reason im unable to comprehend what it is your trying to communicate
Maybe what you speak of has an effect if a child is looking for an ivy league school, ie: Harvard, Yale and so on....... but if they were going there I can almost guarentee you their ACT would be top of their class along with their class ranking.
Like I stated in an earlier post I appreciate your ambition to move Ohio into the elite status For some reason im unable to comprehend what it is your trying to communicate
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Class rank can, in some ways, be considered a privacy issue, because in order to be calculated by anyone other than school administrators, the entire student population's grade average becomes public information. That may be the root of why some schools are no longer providing that statistic.
But if filling in that statistic on a form helps a student get accepted into a certain college, or helps them acquire a healthier scholarship, then why not? It's just common sense to take advantage of the tools a college provides. But just like pitching speed, it's one of those "gray" areas that cannot be proven without some diligent work.
Maybe that's why ACT & SAT scores are now required to be submitted directly from the testing agency to college admissions departments, NOT from the high school. That definitely says something about the weight put on those test scores.
But if filling in that statistic on a form helps a student get accepted into a certain college, or helps them acquire a healthier scholarship, then why not? It's just common sense to take advantage of the tools a college provides. But just like pitching speed, it's one of those "gray" areas that cannot be proven without some diligent work.
Maybe that's why ACT & SAT scores are now required to be submitted directly from the testing agency to college admissions departments, NOT from the high school. That definitely says something about the weight put on those test scores.
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Boulder -
I think we had a similar situation in that the offer was there BEFORE the ACT score came back. I think even though the softball coach and player (and her parents) are ready to ink an attractive scholarship offer, it is NOT official until the admissions office approves the deal. DD's coach was sold on what she had seen so far - GPA, pitching skills, volunteer work, etc. (all the stuff that convinces a coach) - but it was "contingent on her ACT composite score", which she had not received.
Fortunately, everything worked out VERY well. Class rank for us was N/A, but it didn't factor into the deal anyway. But that's not saying it wouldn't for someone else.
P.S. Congrats to your DD! Hope she plays around the Columbus area this summer.
I think we had a similar situation in that the offer was there BEFORE the ACT score came back. I think even though the softball coach and player (and her parents) are ready to ink an attractive scholarship offer, it is NOT official until the admissions office approves the deal. DD's coach was sold on what she had seen so far - GPA, pitching skills, volunteer work, etc. (all the stuff that convinces a coach) - but it was "contingent on her ACT composite score", which she had not received.
Fortunately, everything worked out VERY well. Class rank for us was N/A, but it didn't factor into the deal anyway. But that's not saying it wouldn't for someone else.
P.S. Congrats to your DD! Hope she plays around the Columbus area this summer.
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There are several cases of inner school kids going to harvard and yale.. I wouldn't discount those kids.. smart kids are smart I wouldn't slam them just because their parents couldn't afford higher taxed school district.
