Queen of Diamonds 14U Scores

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We tried to enter Stingrays and Lasers and for whatever reason were denied. We did go to GAPSS and other tournaments in the past that have been strong. Our first year we applied to Stingrays (again denied), but were at Compuware. The notion that we are "playing down" and only trying to collect hardware is ridiculous. Please get a life and quit bashing 14 and 15 year old girls. We went to the QDST because we were invited and for the experience. The competition was good and the girls had a great time. To all of you Madness "bashers": hopefully your teams care about each other and have as much fun as our girls do. That's what really counts.

First off, Congrats to the Madness 95 team on a great tournament championship!!!

Now, sully3, onto your comments about not being selected for tournaments. Stingrays require a resume with the application. The selection committee looks at each application and resume that is received. If you have, for example, ASA Regional Class "B" champion or playing and doing well in ASA local tournaments but no major ASA States or ASA National tournaments, well, that doesn't carry much weight. But, if you have ASA "A" Regional Champs, ASA States 3rd place finish, ASA National Qualifier 2nd place finish, now that is saying something to the selection committee. The selection committee is not a bunch of people who sit locked in a tiny building all year. They are softball people who are out at the ballparks all year long. They know what is going on. The committee also knows when someone is "stretching the truth" on their resume.

To say you were invited to Compuware and denied to Stingrays is not a valid argument for not getting into Lasers or Stingrays. Different showcases have different criteria for acceptance. Does this sound "elitist"? I hope so because Stingrays and Lasers want the elite teams at their tournaments. This is why teams apply, to play the best.

Now, the Madness 95 has done a great job of building their resume. Other teams should take note of how they are building their resume and follow them. For the upcoming tournament season, their resume will open some more doors for them to compete in more tournaments.

 

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Hey MD, I know Madness black hasn't played anyone "real" this year. But they did beat the Central Kentucky Slammers in the Championship of QOD South. Are the Central Kentucky Slammers not considered a "real" team? Could you please tell me the score of the Doom96 against the same Central Kentucky Slammers from last year. I think it was something like Central Kentucky Slammers 8 Doom96 1. Just Sayin!!!

 

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Hey MD, I know Madness black hasn't played anyone "real" this year. But they did beat the Central Kentucky Slammers in the Championship of QOD South. Are the Central Kentucky Slammers not considered a "real" team? Could you please tell me the score of the Doom96 against the same Central Kentucky Slammers from last year. I think it was something like Central Kentucky Slammers 8 Doom96 1. Just Sayin!!!

Yes they beat us 8-1 in 2009. We were a 12u team playing in a 14u tourney, championship game and up 1-0 late and played infield in trying to hold lead but it blew up in our face. KY Slammers are a very good team, as I assume Madness is.

 

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Yes they beat us 8-1 in 2009. We were a 12u team playing in a 14u tourney, championship game and up 1-0 late and played infield in trying to hold lead but it blew up in our face. KY Slammers are a very good team, as I assume Madness is.

Wow John, I just noticed you only have 489 posts in 5 years. I guess you choose your words wisely. I have a couple thousand more in less time but Dan has me beat so he must be the wind bag of the group. hehe

 

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Hey MD, I know Madness black hasn't played anyone "real" this year. But they did beat the Central Kentucky Slammers in the Championship of QOD South. Are the Central Kentucky Slammers not considered a "real" team? Could you please tell me the score of the Doom96 against the same Central Kentucky Slammers from last year. I think it was something like Central Kentucky Slammers 8 Doom96 1. Just Sayin!!!

Before the championship game started they gave the teams records for the year over the pa and the slammers were like 49-6 and the Madness were 61-6 and they both played like teams with only 6 loses on the year.

 

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Wow John, I just noticed you only have 489 posts in 5 years. I guess you choose your words wisely. I have a couple thousand more in less time but Dan has me beat so he must be the wind bag of the group. hehe

I wish I chose my words a little wiser. What went from me stating that playing QOD 14u after winning 14u ASA regionals was a downgrade in competition got turned into I'm bashing kids and have a agenda against paid coach's. I'm about playing teams equal too, or better than you to be challenged and get better in order to be able to compete nationally. I need to realize that isn't every one's goals. Some teams want to win 90% or 100% or their games . just a difference in philosophy and there isn't anything wrong with that. MD

 

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In a previous thread, the Madness 14U Black coach indicated the team's intention to play ASA/USA Nationals next year. In a prior post in this thread, the scheduler for the Madness said they attempted to get into Stingrays the last two years and Lasers this year, but were not accepted (not being critical of the selection process just stating facts). The Madness did play in GAAPS this year and Compuware last year. Do these sound like actions of a team whose philosophy is "...to win 90% or 100% or their games" and to avoid playing teams equal too, or better than us? Really? MD, have you ever met and talked with Gary Saunders, or any of the Madness 14 Black parents? If you had, you'd realize how foolish your statement is. Seems to me, this was another post in which you should have chosen your words more wisely.

 

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As much as I do not want to get involved, some people should ease up on MD. I have met him several times thru the years and believe me he does not mean any harm and/or ill will to any team and such.
This board is to talk softball and not all will be wonderful,chest thumping,butt slapping stuff on here. Posters will be questioned on here and should not take it personally.

***Side note***

Im not speaking on behalf of MD or did he ask me to.

 

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i find out it odd that people are jumping on me for calling out posters that declare their own organization being a dynasty and scary good . I've stated my own personal belief in scheduling . thats enough. MD

 

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You're like Haley's Comet MD. Every couple of years you come around and drop one these little grenades. Do you think the Doom coaches will sell you out when the Madness parents come looking for you like Scoob and the Wild Thang coaches did with the Laser parents.

 

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i find out it odd that people are jumping on me for calling out posters that declare their own organization being a dynasty and scary good . I've stated my own personal belief in scheduling . thats enough. MD

Didn't jump on you for calling out that poster - I don't agree with the statement either. But I am calling you out on pretending to know what the team's goals and philosophy are when you have no clue.

 

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I have to say it even though I know it is wrong.... The rest of us just assumed his dd had played for the org. over the years LMAO !!!!!!!!

 

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Who dislikes MD, raise your hand! :lmao:

Come on, cut MD some slack. Madness is a good team (with nice uniforms btw), they've proved it and won't get shut out of too many tourney's going forward.

 

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i vote yes also. I don't like my self sometimes. thats life . ( need reminded occasionally not to post on the bad days or weeks lol ) MD

 

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Bad Dan, Bad

But some of us get what you are trying to say.

 

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It seems to me (as someone who reads a lot but posts rarely), that the MC Madness has had a great season. They should be congratulated and feel very proud of themselves!!

That being said, humility is an admirable trait and some of the MC posts are a little lacking. When words like "dynasty" etc. get thrown around, it sounds off-putting. For example, the Classics won the ASA Regionals last year at 12U and they didn't get on here afterwards and say how super, spectacular they were and that they were now a dynasty. Just my very humble opinion...

Again, I am very happy that the MC girls brought the hardware back to Ohio and congrats on a great season!

 

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Dan, go back and look at the progression of this thread. Well before RobertK got involved with her hyperbole, you were stating that Madness played down at QDT. THEN in response to RobertK's hyperbole, YOU introduced the notion that we are "paid coaches" if we get reimbursed for our motel expenses. Nobody else but you initially raised these issues. And you accuse me of "turning" this thread into something that you didn't intend? And I have to agree with luckydog that you can't know what Madness tried to achieve in its 2010 schedule. They could have entered states, but other than that I think their schedule was pretty much dictated by decisions of third parties. To accuse them of formulating a schedule where they could win 90-100% of their games . . . how could you possibly know that?

 

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I really don't have anything to add, I just like being the last post before a thread gets locked down.

 

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lol Ringer. You always keep things in perspective. I REALLY REALLY like Dan, but just as he feels the need to "call out" certain issues, I feel the need to "counter-call out" issues where I disagree with him. So I will probably cease and desist from this thread as I think I've made my position clear. And it's certainly not a matter of life or death.

 

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I really don't have anything to add, I just like being the last post before a thread gets locked down.

just once, Id like to have this honor