Pitching and Pitchers Discussion Re-Plant

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It's like pitching is some mystical cult. It's NOT THAT difficult to recognize decent pitching mechanics - hard to execute - YES, just like hitting - but NOT hard to recognize! Heck, Don Slaught now even includes vids of pitching with RVP. Like I said, some day the attention to detail will catch on just like it has with hitting. The fact that EVERYONE (even some of those yucky pitchers ) has to hit sometime means that swing training is much more prevalent, and less mystical --- thanks to the Big Guy.

 

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The thing that amazes me, is that these girls pitching coaches do not correct this problem. QUOTE]

I once coached a girl who crowhopped terribly. Umpires regularly called illegal pitches on her. I reached a point where I just couldn't pitch her any more. I tried and tried to get her to correct this, but she insisted that her pitching coach felt that everything about her delivery was just fine. I gave her my card to give to her pitching coach, and asked that she contact me so we could go over the issues. Never got a call.

 

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softballisheaven:

No, I've never pitched a fastpitch game. I just, along with my husband, paid tons of money to allow my DD to pitch a ton of games, including college games. And I just, as a travel ball assistant coach, try to understand the rules. Those rules are entirely consistent with how my DD was taught, by one of the best, Ron Marstiller.

What's up with your generalizations? Did you ask me whether a leap that is required by a hole in front of the pitcher's plate makes a pitch illegal? Because I would have answered "not necessarily". It depends upon whether after the leap the pitcher replants and pushes off again. It's perfectly fine to leap a hole as long as, in one continuous motion, the pivot foot starts dragging rather than replanting after the hole is cleared.

What's with all this animosity?

 

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What's with all this animosity?

PMS (Pitching Mechanics Syndrome)

 

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PMS (Pitching Mechanics Syndrome)

:lmao::lmao:

 

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I'm no expert but it looks like in the position she is in she couldn't have pushed off yet. Thus dragging the foot wouldn't apply. You have to push off from the rubber meaning this has to be a replant.

 

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maybe she disagree's with 43 ft and just refuses. She says " 40 or nothing " MD

 

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PMS (Pitching Mechanics Syndrome)

Now THAT'S hilarious - & qualifies for post of the week!!!! :lmao:

(I would have said "post of the month", but that might be too tacky...)

 

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I love this thread.

Since my daughters have chosen a path of hitting the ball I love to read all the pitcher dad banter. I will say that the serious hitting parents can get equally as insane.

I have been told that my daughter (who has a perfect swing BTW...LOL) would do much better if she went to another hitting coach by the father of a daughter that hits about 0.150 and has this guy as her "hitting coach". My daughter hit over 0.400 last year. And is absolutely killing the ball right now against live practice. I can not wait to see her hitting those lasers come regular season time.

Anyway, I pretty much hate all the insanity surrounding pitchers. The parents act like they are better than the other parents because their daughter pitches. OK maybe a bit extreme but they do have the craziest thoughts around.

Here is a classic pitchers MOM conversation I just had the other day (my wife coaches the team and this womans daughter pitchers for my wife):

Mom - hey is Suzy coming back to the team next year at 14U?(we r 12U)
Me- I hope not, she is awesome, I am hoping she can get on an 16U exposure team , but that would be sweet if she came back
Me - why do you ask? Want to play with her? She is a great kid.....
Mom- No, she plays the same positions as my DD and she also pitches..............and I am hoping they do not come back.........
Me-???????picking my jaw off ground........walk away

Seriously, the season has not even happened and pitcher MOM is looking to next year............WOW

 

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pitcher mom alert!!!
Our DD has had 4 different pitching coaches in the last 5 years and learned something from each of them. They receive every report of her being busted for illegal pitches and work with her to correct bad habits before they become completely ingrained.
However, the pits that occur in front of the rubber can become lethal and are challenging for her since she's so short. Her stride doesn't clear the front of the crater and her back foot can't drag on the ground because it's 6 inches below her toe. There is no replant but it can look like a leap.
Maybe her new cleats will help? They are a size larger to allow for growth so perhaps the toes will drag thru the pit?

 

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thats the funniest post I've ever read on OFC . just is. MD

 

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:lmao:

 

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BouldersDad is in denial about pitching and pitchers dads.....one day with some therapy, he will come around......

Never........... Mama says pitchers dads are the devil. :yahoo:

 

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I asked my dd about that hole in front of the rubber. She told she tries and fill it back up before she takes the rubber because of she hates how her foot drops into the hole. I just feel sorry for the pitcher who come in after her, it is no longer a hole, but a grand canyon. Can you say a little too much drag?

 

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If there is a giant hole in front of the rubber, my DD just puts on a size 15 shoe on her drag foot and plows right through it.......

 

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I detect a hint of insincerity...

 

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Getting back to the original topic, I showed the picture to my dd, and she noticed immediately that the pitcher's plant leg is bent in the picture, even though the plant foot has already re-touched. If she were not getting ready to push off a second time, why would her back leg be bent??? If she had already made her stride off the pitching rubber, her leg would be straight.

 

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Is this a Replant?

first of all, did you get a release from the player or photographer to post this picture? I think that there are laws against this kind of thing. I would be worried that this player's dad would take legal action against me for slandering her. Maybe even the school? Or what about the third base coach who was identified in an earlier post?

second, how in the world can anyone tell from just this one picture if she drug to this point or not? not all pitchers drag laces first.

 

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first of all, did you get a release from the player or photographer to post this picture? I think that there are laws against this kind of thing. I would be worried that this player's dad would take legal action against me for slandering her. Maybe even the school? Or what about the third base coach who was identified in an earlier post?

second, how in the world can anyone tell from just this one picture if she drug to this point or not? not all pitchers drag laces first.

Do you know the source of the picture? If it was already on the internet, no release would be necessary. How was the third base coach identified positively?

Somebody needs to check your papers.

 

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@Woolfman:

Um, unauthorized use of a person's image is something I haven't followed as far as the legal implications. But I can tell you that slander is not in the mix. Slander involves spoken words that are untruthful about the person. Libel involves written/pictorial assertions that are untruthful. I hardly think asking whether the picture looks like a replant could be somehow construed as libelous.

That question about posting a picture and whether that constitutes unauthorized use intrigues me. Maybe before travel ball starts I will take some time to research Ohio law on that point. Or maybe some other legal eagle on OFC can just answer it off the top of his or her head.