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Pacerdad57

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There has been a lot being said lately about the recruiting process and the movement towards verbaling ever younger players. What's the big deal a lot of people ask? If the coaches don't do it, they will lose out on stud recruits.

I think it may be time that the NCAA steps up to the plate and passes legislation that make sense and is easily enforceable. What these rules need to be is the question. Recruiting someone in the 8th grade seems absolutely ridiculous, even the rules now shouldn't allow this as they are written, but there are so many loopholes as to make it unenforceable. An 8th grade student may be a stud at the game, but has absolutely no idea of what college ball encompasses, the work, the time and most of all the interruption of studies which are after all the real reason to attend college.

Who even knows if this kid has peaked, will come to hate the game from constant practicing, at the exclusion of being a kid and broadening their social experiences. What if there is a serious injury? It's only a verbal commitment, right? The schools or the child can de-commit at any time. What if you've spent your entire high school career concentrating on your sport and it?s taken away from you by injury your senior season? Have they prepared themselves for the future without the opportunities their chosen sport provides?

I think that this is where parents need to step up and focus their kids on what the most important aspect of this is, and that is getting the education. What good is an athletic scholarship if you don't put in the effort to get a degree in a field that can support you comfortably and you can be passionate about after you are out of college? Parents need to help their children realize that while sports are important to develop socially and help to mature, they are not the end game in life. Don't get me wrong, I love softball and watching our daughter play the game, but playing certainly won't be the focus of her life after college.

Maybe a few things that could be done are to have the NCAA stick to a strict no contact of any kind with kids prior to sophomore year in High School, no official visits until the fall of the junior year? This would certainly make the junior year a more rushed affair I'm sure, trying to fit visits into all the schools you are interested in and that are interested in you, but something has to be done. Maybe as a parent you could start the process with your child of picking out schools that have programs that your child wants and limiting the laundry list of schools from the outset. I'm sure there are schools that don't offer what your child wants as a major, and these should be crossed off of the list at the beginning. And your child really does need to have an idea of what they want to major in prior to committing. I would think not much could be worse than being at a school just because they offered you and having no interest in any majors they offer, thereby leading to a lack of passion about classes, leading to failing grades leading to loss of scholarship?.

So I think academics really are the most important part of this equation. This is the reason your child has worked so hard towards obtaining that scholarship, so that they can prepare themselves for life. If someone thinks they are going to college just to play pro ball they need to look at the number of openings and the pay for pro fastpitch. I'm sure Cat Osterman made some great money, but that is what is known as the exception to the rule.

Do your child a favor, prepare them for college and life after college. Talk to them about what interests them career wise, discuss where they want to go to school, what the important things are in life and set them up to succeed.
 
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I agree with a lot of what you have written. I believe that anyone picking a school should choose it to get a career.

I do not see the early recruiting the same way you do. I think there are some situations where the student and the family go in with eyes wide open and know exactly what they want. If your daughter chooses a school with 200 majors and wants to change it's a lot easier than a school with only 30 majors.

Look at college rosters. A lot of rosters have 3 or 4 seniors and 8 or 9 freshman. That tells me not many girls make it through college playing ball. It is a serious drain on their time, but the advantages are worth it. Ask anyone that played college ball how impressed employers are with their level of commitment.
 

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Gotta get in 3 lines so it counts for you in the contest thing, but I really only have 1 thing to say.

College isn't about an education anymore, it's a job requirement.

I like starbursts.

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I'll agree that there are some from the lower ages that are mature enough to know a career path and have had great amounts of encouragement from parents who have raised a very mature child. Still if they are looking for a college with 200 majors and changing majors a lot they will not fit into that category. They would more likely to me to be the ones who go for sports and not an education, and keep changing majors over and over to find passing grades. No one can go in with absolute certainty that their chosen major will remain their degrees major, but someone serious about the education and getting a useful degree to have gainful (and enjoyable) employment are not going to be changing majors more than once maybe twice.
And I do agree that it is a HUGE strain on time for a student/athlete, but there are some schools out there that work a good balance between academics/athletics. I know people who have been on scholarship and dropped it to pursue their degree.' The reason? Their parents had raised them to see the degree as the MOST IMPORTANT facet of college.
This is my main point, I do not feel the average 8th grade stud has any concept of college athletics vs college education and is not ready for the recruiting process. Again, I am sure there are exceptions, but on average I feel they just aren't ready.
Let's back things off a bit. Let them be kids and have experiences that are once in a lifetime chances. Mi know we did not push our DD to do nothing but practice, practice practice. She had fun she was a kid, and she'll still get her share of looks.
She's a good player, but it does t define her life. We (and her also) want her to be a much more rounded person at the end of this process, and be able to enjoy life as much as possible.
 

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Can't disagree with you Mike. It is a job requirement.
As someone who does not have that degree, I bemoan the way the technical trades have been shortchanged over the last few decades. It's a tough market out there for an experienced technical person these days.
 

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This is completely dependent on the player. First what is the skill level or potential of this player and second what are her goals for the future. College athletics is nothing like high school as far as time involved and competition. You have to ask your daughter what she wants to do and how far and how big she wants to go. Once you have determined that you can make decisions on travel ball and cost requirements etc. As far as not recruiting 8th graders it depends on the 8th grader. Mine had a discussion about the labs at her college and she did not spend one day in high school yet. She was fortunate enough to play in front of dozens of major colleges on her travel team and has the size that if she has peaked she will still be a major contributor in college. The best thing you can do is learn the recruiting rules for the NCAA. I have actually watched smaller time travel team coaches take a player to introduce to a college coach at a showcase or tournament--do NOT do this. It is not their fault they just dont know any better. As far as the degree and the the job they love i know many of my teammates from college and they have a business degree and are doing a wide spectrum of careers so that is not really a factor as much as just getting the degree.
 

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As I said before,'there are probably exceptions to the rule. Always are. Maybe your DD ID that exception. I would still say that 98%of 8th graders wouldn't have any idea what college labs are all about, let alone the commitment required to be a college athlete. I don't think it should be decided on the individual, at that point who makes the call where to stop? Mayo says a college coach won't go after some 10u stud? Think that is ok? There should be an enforceable rule set about recruiting. If it takes no contact with travel coaches, so be it. It no contact until Jr. Year would become a rule, no one could keep it quiet, they would be busted. The average kid just isn't ready at that age, there shouldn't be recruiting at this level imp.
 
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