sending up the "Brett Signal" out of play

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a base hit left field. ?fielder throws wet ball to cut off and it goes over cutoffs head and rolls out of bounds. ?what base is the batter on?

I should add that it wentout of bounds near first base.

I will not add why no one else on the diamond was there to stop the ball...

 

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If the batter had not reached first base by the time of the throw, the batter is on second. If she had reached first, then she is on third.

 

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Anything from the infield is one base, and anything from the outfield is two bases.

 

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neither of those are turly clear answers. the throw was made before she got to first but she rounded in towards second. she was awarded two bases andended up on 3rd. (I thought she should be on 2nd) Since it was a base hit she got to go to third.

The best explanation I have heard was - the one she was heading to plus the next on from the point of the first defensive play. so when the throw was made - she hadn't reached first.

(it doesn't matter if the ball went off the glove of a player or not)

 

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There is alot to this one in the rule book so i will put the part i think refers to your situation.

RULE 8 SECTION 5(G)

When the ball is live and is overthrown or is blocked
EFFECT: All runners shall be awarded two bases. The award shall be governed by the positions of the runners when the ball left the fielder's hand.

All i have here right now is 2006 ASA and it has a POE in it #38 OVERTHROWS
Runners are always awarded two bases on overthrows which go out of play (and i will skip some here that has to do with loose equp.) Regardless of who made the throw, two bases are awarded from the last base touched at the time the ball left the hand.

I know its a 2006 but should still be the same. My 2008 is in dd bat bag and she isnt here right now. I keep it there so i know it makes it to every tournament.

 

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That pretty much answers the question. Straight from the rule book: All runners shall be awarded two bases. The award shall be governed by the positions of the runners when the ball left the fielder's hand.

Tell us where your runner was when the fielder released the ball and we can tell you which base the runner should be awarded.

(And I see you did tell us in another post!)

Quote: " The throw was made before she got to first...". Stop right there. That's all we need to know. Disregard what the runner did after the ball was thrown, when or where the ball left the field or the time lag between the release of the ball and it actually going out of play. With respect to the base award, all that is moot.

The batter-runner is awarded two bases forward from her position at the instant the ball left the fielder's hand. She gets second base.

(P.S. to Lady Knights: You might want to double-check your answer. Your statement is pretty close to the baseball rule, but not in-line with the softball rule!)

 

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I am re-reading my answer and failing to see where it is wrong or even unclear?

 

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(P.S. to Lady Knights: You might want to double-check your answer. Your statement is pretty close to the baseball rule, but not in-line with the softball rule!)

Is that the rule for baseball? I knew I had read that somewhere, but couldn't find it in the ASA or HS rule book.

 

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In our High School Regional Lexington Lost to Clyde 3- 2 on this two base rule in the seventh inning on a two base throwing error. So This rule was still fresh in my mind.

 

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here's the bretman signal.

 

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Ringer, thats some funny stuff.

 

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Good one, Ringer!

I was going to try something like that but you beat me to it!