Setting Bad Examples

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Just got home from the tournament in Strausburgh. I along with hundres of other parents witnessed 3 incidents of parents and coaches in heated arguments in front of their teams, other coaches, and parents. One of the parents had to be restrained by other coaches before it came to blows. All of this in front of 12 y/o girls. In the last incident it was a 12u player begging her parents to just get in the car and leave, but they just keep arguing. Parents and coaches you need to think about the damage and examples your setting for these kids. Use the 24 hour rule, take time to think things over, chances are you will have a different opinion the next day, and your not airing your dirty laundry for all to see. Remember IT'S JUST A GAME!!! The goal is to have fun, and from what I saw today there were bunch of kids not having fun.

 

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What a shame,sounds like the 12 year old was better at gauging the situation than her parents.

 

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I was there this weekend too and I must have missed it. The 24 hour rule is a MUST if only to save the kids some embarassment.

 

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Nothing will get resolved like that. Use the 24 hour rule to cool down. Curious, did any of the parents and /or coaches get removed from the facility?

 

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The first 2 incidents were after the games were finished during the team meetings. Which I think only players and coaches should meet, and the last was actually during the game we were playing in. Coach called out a player on an error that was made, and player grabbed her bat bag and told the coach not to talk to her like that and then announced she was leaving. She never did leave, so I don't know who won that battle.

 

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Any kid talked to me like that and she wouldn't have a choice on leaving because I'd throw her out. Wow, and the parents didn't smack her teeth out???

 

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Any kid talked to me like that and she wouldn't have a choice on leaving because I'd throw her out. Wow, and the parents didn't smack her teeth out???

"""Wow, and the parents didn't smack her teeth out???"" I can see the next day headlines, "Parents arrested for criminally assaulting their child"" Prosecutor, ""We intend to purse the maximum on this one, imagine doing that it front of such a crowd"". Funny part is if you quietly grouse about the coach you then become a nasty "Backstabber", horrors!

 

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I don't care about headlines cr@p, my children are repectful of adults no matter the situation and would NEVER consider talking to a coach or adult like that.

I wouldn't call it quietly grousing, I believe you posted your dirty laundry about your dd not getting a fair shake with ANY coach for all to see on the OFC.

 

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Very very surprised at what i heard from coaches and parents at the 16u field in Elryria all weekend. I thought it was me being sensitive but the mouths were awful. Even heard some parents taunting other teams players. Very disappointing. Very little sportsmanship all weekend. Hope not a new trend!

 

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Klump agree 100%,no respect and should not be tolelated.

 

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Any kid talked to me like that and she wouldn't have a choice on leaving because I'd throw her out. Wow, and the parents didn't smack her teeth out???

Whoa!!!! Way to go from 0-60. Slow it down. Just because a child desires mutual respect from an adult doesn't make her unruly. None of us were witnesses to all this drama, let's save the assumptions and the unwanted dental bill.

I believe that children should show respect to adults, but they deserve it also. All children are raised in different enviroments and I'm guessing that in that particular instance, that wasn't the right way to discipline her. Some kids respond to yelling and being belittled, others require details and encouragment, in both cases, this is probably determined by the type of enviroment the child lives in. It's up to the coach to find the best way to approach his/her players.

 

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I also agree. My dd would play for Klump anywhere at anytime. She is a good coach who is respected by her players and parents. She does it old school.

 

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WOW! It is a sad situation when the Mature adult is the KID and the KID is the ADULT! Plus at the 12u level. Where you are trying to teach your young sponges all that is good in the softball world.
Not the first time I have heard about this stuff. The 48 hr., after the tourney weekend is over,is the best to use. When cooler heads can discuss like adults.
The player situation, well she too would be on "vacation" for awhile!
Good Luck with all that!
Another good rule is "would you do that if your grandma was standing there?" I think NOT.
But all is situational. Still have to travel a mile in those shoes.

 

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Whoa!!!! Way to go from 0-60. Slow it down. Just because a child desires mutual respect from an adult doesn't make her unruly. None of us were witnesses to all this drama, let's save the assumptions and the unwanted dental bill.

I believe that children should show respect to adults, but they deserve it also. All children are raised in different enviroments and I'm guessing that in that particular instance, that wasn't the right way to discipline her. Some kids respond to yelling and being belittled, others require details and encouragment, in both cases, this is probably determined by the type of enviroment the child lives in. It's up to the coach to find the best way to approach his/her players.

Holy **** at no point should we be belittling to our children.
yelling have done it many times but belittling anyone is uncalled for and dont agree thats encouraing?

 

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I also agree. My dd would play for Klump anywhere at anytime. She is a good coach who is respected by her players and parents. She does it old school.

Old school is the only way to go. My oldest has a voice, BUT she had to earn it. The first moment she raises her voice, it is a sign of disrespect, and that's where the line is drawn. She understands that. She's learned the hard way. However, I have also taught her how to talk to adults when it comes to confrontations at around the age of 10.

HOWEVER, if she did that to the coach like RHM stated, I'll throw her off the team and that is just the start. Not is that a reflection of her, but on me and the way I raise my children. What RHM stated is a learned trait, something like that just does not happen overnight and they picked it up from somewhere.

But JMHO.

 

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I don't care about headlines cr@p, my children are repectful of adults no matter the situation and would NEVER consider talking to a coach or adult like that.

I wouldn't call it quietly grousing, I believe you posted your dirty laundry about your dd not getting a fair shake with ANY coach for all to see on the OFC.

Amen!



FASTPITCH! Anything else, And you're playing too SLOW!

 

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Another good rule is "would you do that if your grandma was standing there?" I think NOT.
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If my kid acted like that, GRANDMA would knock her teeth out then kick "my" butt for raising a kid to be that disrespectful. lol

 

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And I have also seen Grandma at the front of the line with the pitchfork!

 

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Very very surprised at what i heard from coaches and parents at the 16u field in Elryria all weekend. I thought it was me being sensitive but the mouths were awful. Even heard some parents taunting other teams players. Very disappointing. Very little sportsmanship all weekend. Hope not a new trend!

Send me a PM or email with some specifics if you would. There was at least one time while we were warming up when I noticed 2 teams out of the dugout at homeplate and it looked like something heated was going on. I had also heard from 3 different team coaches that one manager in particular was way over the top.

Send me some specifics and please let me know if any incidents involved my team, coaches or parents. We cannot predict or prevent incidents from occuring but we can take incidents into account when deciding if we need to take action with teams, managers or parents in the future.

 

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just thought I'd clarify that what I witnessed at the Elyria tournament was with team coaches and team parents. The Tourny was run very, very well and grounds crew concessions and people running it were great!