Setting Bad Examples

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Send me a PM or email with some specifics if you would. There was at least one time while we were warming up when I noticed 2 teams out of the dugout at homeplate and it looked like something heated was going on. I had also heard from 3 different team coaches that one manager in particular was way over the top.

Send me some specifics and please let me know if any incidents involved my team, coaches or parents. We cannot predict or prevent incidents from occuring but we can take incidents into account when deciding if we need to take action with teams, managers or parents in the future.

Very nice approach and hope all follow your example.

 

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Any kid talked to me like that and she wouldn't have a choice on leaving because I'd throw her out. Wow, and the parents didn't smack her teeth out???

If my DD talked to her coach like that I would expect her to be thrown out AND then I would smack her teeth out. And then she would apologize to the coach and her team and spend many hours in her room thinking about what a dump @ss thing that was to do.

 

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I would personally allow my daughter to keep her teeth but I would shut down her world outside of our family until I figured out what was going on. Let her keep her teeth, take the cell phone, review all the texts...unplug the facebook...review all the "friends" and posts. Then come up with a plan of action...2 cents

 

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Sounds like OFC is going to need an OFC Dental Plan. Lots of teeth getting knocked out, maybe these players then get banned to the Appalachia Fastpitch Circuit.

 

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I would hope that the coach was being constructive in pointing out an error. Even so, a healthy dialogue with a 16 year old is not a bad thing. I believe you have to be able to get on the girls and know where that line is. I think you also have to be able to listen what they were thinking.

If all we are doing is talking and not "COMMUNICATING" our point, their ears will quickly stop working. COMMUNICATING takes two people; with a common goal in this case.

JMHO

 

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First time back in three months, and this is the hot topic...We actually had a lot of mutual respect and general good times between the players and teams at the 16U in Perrysburg this weekend, probably because there was general consensus all the good umps were in Maumee at the USSSA state,,,lol I actaully left feeling pretty good about the kids. And for the record, while I would threaten to knock my kids teeth out, I realize that thier mouth is where my new car went.... Hope their are no orthodontists reading this post or there may be some new sign sponsors popping up on the outfield fences.

 

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I would hope that the coach was being constructive in pointing out an error. Even so, a healthy dialogue with a 16 year old is not a bad thing. I believe you have to be able to get on the girls and know where that line is. I think you also have to be able to listen what they were thinking.

If all we are doing is talking and not "COMMUNICATING" our point, their ears will quickly stop working. COMMUNICATING takes two people; with a common goal in this case.

JMHO

Thank you, a response that I can agree with. Lol.

What's funny about this post is that everyone feels compelled to "knock" this young ladies teeth out for what may or may not have been irrational and heat of the moment response.......BUT refuse to comment on the ignorant parents and coaches that were involved in the yelling and fighting. This child has (at the most) had 16 years of dealing with pressure, critsism, AND adrenaline........how can we be so critical of her when it is quite apparent that adults 2x-3x her age can't even get it right.

 

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too many tree huggers in fastpitch softball... I read " take the cell phone away, shut them in from the outside world" and then the cr@p jbennet spewed about ?????? what ever he spewed about. If your child disrespects adults, coaches or any figure of authority it is your duty to take their cell phone and knock their teeth out with it. and then bounce it of the head of the first pansy that says "dont do that". JMHO

 

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From reading other posts about the tornaments over the weekend I think everbody was a little testy. Must have been the 8 back to back games in 2 days and the hot weather that frayed everyones nerves. Sundays are always pressured filled anyways, then throw hot weather into the mix, it's just a bad combination. I just hope everyone steps back and takes a look at their behavior and thinks about the effects it has on everyone involved.

I would also like to say to anyone who is reading this and is considering making the jump to travel ball that there is bad apples in every bunch. This is our first full year of travel ball and it was the best decision we ever made. The positives far out weigh the negatives. The best advice is do your home work. If it doesn't fell right, go with your gut. My dd was offered a roster spot on one of the teams that was involved in one of the incidents. I thought it was a good orginization, but mt dd said she didn't feel good about it. I thought she was just being picky, but it turned out she was right, and she clearly pointed that out to me on the car ride home. It's hard to admit to your 13y/o dd that you were wrong and she was right. Remember IT'S ONLY A GAME!!!

 

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People that live in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

 

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Many of the players today wear Rip-it masks and mouth guards making it nearly impossible to knock out teeth inspite of the well meaning parents best intentions.

In all seriousness dealing with the initial post - We need as coaches to aspire to the highest character values in what we say and do and we need to make that expectation clear to players and parents (then if they step out we have something to talk to them face to face about). I loved all of the Coach Wooden references by the UCLA Softball team and his pyramid of success that they were using to guide their team. Great stuff http://woodencourse.com/woodens_wisdom.html

 

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Sounds like OFC is going to need an OFC Dental Plan. Lots of teeth getting knocked out, maybe these players then get banned to the Appalachia Fastpitch Circuit.

... If your child disrespects adults, coaches or any figure of authority it is your duty to take their cell phone and knock their teeth out with it. and then bounce it of the head of the first pansy that says "dont do that". JMHO

Many of the players today wear Rip-it masks and mouth guards making it nearly impossible to knock out teeth inspite of the well meaning parents best intentions...

 

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Been into the Katnip again, Kat?

 

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I don't care about headlines cr@p, my children are repectful of adults no matter the situation and would NEVER consider talking to a coach or adult like that.

I wouldn't call it quietly grousing, I believe you posted your dirty laundry about your dd not getting a fair shake with ANY coach for all to see on the OFC.

I am quite puzzeled. My post was in jestful humor. You come roaring bak with the nitric acid.

 

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My apologies, the jestful humor wasn't detected. I will put the cap on my nitric acid and put it back on the shelf for now.

 

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Sort of off topic sort of not but I remember eating dinner at my girlfriend house. I was 13 and she was 12. Anyway, she said something that her Mom thought young ladies shouldn't say and WAMM with the back out her hand and out came a tooth!!!!! I was shocked, she was bleeding and her little sister cried for an hour. When ever I see her, we talk about it and how it effected what and when things came out of her mouth! Kids today don't have the respect for adults we had back in the 60's and 70's.

P.S. the tooth was loose so it wasn't a hard hit but a hard lessen learned!

 

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Sort of off topic sort of not but I remember eating dinner at my girlfriend house. I was 13 and she was 12. Anyway, she said something that her Mom thought young ladies shouldn't say and WAMM with the back out her hand and out came a tooth!!!!! I was shocked, she was bleeding and her little sister cried for an hour. When ever I see her, we talk about it and how it effected what and when things came out of her mouth! Kids today don't have the respect for adults we had back in the 60's and 70's.

P.S. the tooth was loose so it wasn't a hard hit but a hard lessen learned!

60s and 70s???
werent you 37 back then with two tours in oki nawa under your belt?

 

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60s and 70s???
werent you 37 back then with two tours in oki nawa under your belt?

:lmao: :lmao: Now that's funny!! :lmao: :lmao:

 

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I look young for my age

 

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In today's society, disrespect is often overlooked and disregarded by those in authority positions because they want to take the path of least resistance.

If my DD even disrespected a pearent, coach and/or teammate she would learn the definition of discipline.

The problem is that parents just don't covet teaching respect the way our grandparents did.