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One of my players was recently told by her basketball coach that if he caught her conditioning with a team besides his during basketball season he would cut her and anyone else that does it from the team. I realize that what you coach is important to you,but what effect do you have on a young (freshman) girl when you tell her something like this? She really loves the game of softball and plays basketball to stay in shape and have some time to play with her friends. Anything we do with our fastpitch team does not interfere with the girls that plays winter sports or that schedule. Should a coach give such an ultimatum or am i missing something?

 

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We havn't dealt personally with this but I've heard the stories enough that this situation doesn't seem unique. What is the position of the school's AD on this or is the coach allowed to set his own policies without the school reviewing and approving them first? As a parent my first reaction is outside of the school the authority of what my kid can do is mine and mine alone. Far too often if you must confront a coach they may find ways to retaliate that can't be proven as such unless you have an AD that will stand 100% with you but that almost never happens. Bottom line is if softball is her primary sport then working with and participating in it year round if possible is where her focus should be. That basketball coach needs to be told by one of his superiors that his authority does not go to the extent that he thinks it does.

 

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I wouldn't worry to much about it. Go about doing whatever you want, I doubt that he ever follows through on his threats. Unless your travel team is practicing in the same gym as the BB team I don't really see how he would ever know unless you or someone told him, and then I would just deny it. If he was stupid enough to cut her because of it, your much better off anyways because he sounds like a real douche!!!

 

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I think everyone should start doing this.
Play on His team and continue her conditioning with softball, and anyone else doing the same should follow suit. He catches the girls and kicks them off the team. Now the coach is short players, or maybe the best girls are removed from the team. The Team starts losing because of his really stupid rule and HE LOOKS LIKE AN A**.

Highschool coaches need to realize this is not the pro's. It is AMATEUR SPORTS. And for the most part if you are coaching Highschool in Ohio then you are not that good of a coach. Because of the rule that teachers coach first(teachers union in Ohio) before any non-teacher can coach.

The teachers union needs to quit hurting kids for their own greed of a few and I mean a few thousand $$$. Just because you are a great teacher in no way means you will be a good coach. And vise-a-versa

 

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How about you post the Coach and School and we all call him and we can use the NoBama slogan it's time for change.....just an idea

 

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allow me to throw a twist into this. Let say it is summer and one of your players (best player) sprains her ankle or gets hurt worse at summer basketball conditioning and misses a lot of your softball games. Are you gonna say

1) "That is okay I know basketball is important to you also"

2) "Why are you practicing basketball, It is softball season"

3) "Wait till I see that no good so and so basketball coach. I will tell him a thing or two"

This is what happens when sports become all year long events. Coaches wanting to the be best they can put players in the middle by making them decide what sport practice to attend.

 

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These coaches are under pressure to succeed and if off season conditioning for another sport were to put their team at risk, they probably will have trouble with it. Now, a good coach would have explained all that at tryouts to insure there were no surprises during the season, but apparently this coach didn't do that. I would have a problem there. He also probably knew his best athletes were into other sports, so he didn't drop the bomb on them until after they made the team. That stinks, too.

If you dd plays BB to keep in condition for softball, I know that at our school the softball players are already conditioning on their own with some non-coaches supervising. They are working hard, but it's not getting the same competitive juices flowing, that's for sure. All of them chose to quit other sports to focus on softball.

Unfortunately it's really getting to the point that the kids have to choose what they want to play in hs. I don't agree with it, but it sure seems like that's what's been happening over the past decade.

 

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I understand the injury concern but injuries happen. Is she going to be forbidden from riding her bike because she could fall off and sprain her wrist? What if she's shooting around on her own and tweaks her ankle? I can understand the coach saying that basketball is a priority--don't miss any games or practices because of off season conditioning for another sport but this is a bit much (especially since its a freshman team).

 

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This is similar to the coach that tries to dictate what summer team your kid will play on - or else. Yeah, right! Being the die-hard rebel that I am, when confronted with a dictatorial individual like this, I guarantee my primary goal will be to circumvent their attempts at control - and have fun with it in the process! In other words, don't try to control me or my kids unless you have the authority to do so. Last time I checked, most of those idiots don't really have the authority they claim to have. It's fun finding out just how far you can go with them, though!

As long as you aren't breaking any laws or harming another human being, it's a free country. I enjoy a little fun when it comes to these types. An absolute fun favorite of mine is the "cooler police" at summer tournaments. I've actually dreamed up a few "subversive" inventions to counter their controlling ways, but I just haven't had the time to market them. Anyone have any seed money?

 

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allow me to throw a twist into this. Let say it is summer and one of your players (best player) sprains her ankle or gets hurt worse at summer basketball conditioning and misses a lot of your softball games. Are you gonna say

1) "That is okay I know basketball is important to you also"

2) "Why are you practicing basketball, It is softball season"

3) "Wait till I see that no good so and so basketball coach. I will tell him a thing or two"

This is what happens when sports become all year long events. Coaches wanting to the be best they can put players in the middle by making them decide what sport practice to attend.

Buckeyefamily, ... we have SO "been there done that" ... NEVER want to go face the in-season coach with that type of bad news, and I have had to do just that eek: gulp!).

But the reality is that when you have kids that have "strong" talent and interest in multiple sports it is going to happen, inevitably. As pointed out these are year-round sports (at the high levels) any more, and some have the ability to do both year-round. I just can't "bring myself" to limit my own kid or someone else's when they are not being paid with money or educational grants, especially if they "love" both sports. Who knows what maturity will bring?

You CERTAINLY owe it to the in-season coach & team mates to be sensible though, and not take unnecessary risks or make over-commitments (whatever those things are??).

I love multi-sport athletes, btw.

 

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It's easy to overcommit. My dd plays h.s. volleyball and we found out that a Sat. match conflicted with a college showcase softball tourney this fall. She chose softball because it is her #1 sport and the one she trains for and plays year-round. The VB coach was not happy and said if dd got hurt playing softball during VB season, she (coach) would be a very bitter person. I understand her side completely. But if dd goes to VB camp this summer during SB season and gets hurt, then who will be bitter? My husband and I as well as our SB coach and team. It's a no-win situation.

 

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I love multi-sport athletes, btw.

College coaches do also. From their perspective, it shows two things. First, if a kid can handle a busy schedule, they're better prepared to become a college level athlete. Secondly, if a kid is playing multiple high school sports, especially at a larger school, they are generally more athletically gifted than most. After all, what doesn't kill you will only make you stronger. But it's NOT all about sports. It's about being a well rounded person.

 

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Sammy,

HOMERUN! Covers it completely. Coaches that overlook and/or inhibit Multi-Sport athletes will NEVER see their best team hit the field/Court.

 

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DADDY thinks there is too much emphisis on some of these softball kids that they feel if they are not practicing softball year around they will be a step slower than the competition in the summer. If your competing in the ASA A tournaments and your a great talent in softball and you have a legitimit shot at college money then focus on softball. But lets face it 80 percent of the kids we see in our weekend tournaments are not in line for Division 1 scholorships, DADDY hates to bring you all down to reallity. So I think that it is important to respect the wishes of a High School coach. Honestly the only reason why I believe this is even a topic is because of the belief of the summer travel team being more competitive than the average high school team.

 

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Daddy, you're right too. I think the TRUE 4 Letterman types from back in the day, are what HItter and I'm talking about. Those kids SHOULD compete in multi sports as they make everyone around them better. I also agree that too many kids are trying to do this that don't measure up the that quality of a player, and to those kids/parents, I side with the Coach... "Pick One" and do your best.

 

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Variety is the spice of life. If you force a child to choose one sport, she is far more likely to burn out on that sport than she is if she plays several. Even Lebron played football in high school. Can you imagine how his basketball coach and teammates must have cringed every time he was tackled? As for telling a kid she can't do organized conditioning with another team from another sport during the basketball season-- that's just dumb. What he SHOULD be able to demand are these things:

No skiing.
No motorcycle riding.
No goofing around in gym class.
No practicing on the balance beam or on any aparatus that could be dangerous.
Last, but not least (in my opinion) --NO SOFTBALL GAMES OR SCRIMMAGES. Conditioning is one thing. Fielding a few grounders, hitting off a machine-- fine. But when you start running bases in game situations or hitting off pitchers who might be wild because they're working on different pitches during the off-season-- then you're taking risks above and beyond what should be allowed. Softball coaches, in my opinion, should not ask their multi-sport players to commit to playing games in the off-season. Remember, if you force a player to choose, you might not like the choice.

 

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our high school is the same way with their sports only the ones that are in season are the ones allowed to be played.

 

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It is pretty common for a coach of a team that is "In Season" not to want an injury while the player practices a sport that is "Out of Season" I don't think it is out of line for this coach to want his players focused on their "In Season" team and to keep them healthy (colds & flu are bad enough).

Some coaches do come off a little too strong on this request. Should be presented in team rules prior to tryouts of what they can do. If a particular player would like to ask to practice with an Out of Season team, then they should set up a meeting with Coach & Parent and see if a mutual agreement can be reached. A player should be able to pursue both goals of playing BB & continuing to "condition" with another sports team that is out of season. Now indoor tournies shouldn't be allowed IMO.

DD gave up BB in the 9th grade because of this. We went to coach and he said if he allowed her to do it, he would have to allow everyone to do it. DD asked him who else wanted to do it, and he said no one. She told him SB was her passion, and she wouldn't be playing BB. He called her 3-4 times at home the following week, still not allowing her to practice w/SB team..Dad finally stepped in on last phone call and asked him can she practice SB also, w/NO TOURNIES....He said no, so I told him not to call anymore or I'd contact the AD about the phone calls...He stopped calling

 

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I can see it coming my way with my DD.She plays both BB and fastpitch.Very athletic.Both of her coaches are total goobers.If one says she is limited to one sport I think the to coachs will have to fight to the death in front of the ad.The winner will be depressed becouse we will open enroll her to a sport friendly school.:lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

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I'm guessing most people would be very put-off if their boss told them "I don't want you playing in an adult basketball (softball, flag football) league, because you might get hurt and I'd be out an employee". So what's the difference here?

C'mon - the old injury excuse is about as old as dirt. Your kids are only "kids" for a short time. I'd feel guilty cheating them out of doing some of these things because of the lame "because you'll get injured" excuse! I can see I'm pretty much alone on this one.

The reasoning for not letting my kids do something is NOT because a potential injury could keep them from a sport. It would be because it would be too dangerous and risky ANYWAY. I prefer not to let someone else make common sense decisions for me.