Hitting and Hitters Discussion Slug, Slap, Drag???

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besides the regular bunt, there are Slug, Slap, and Drag? Correct? I was taght different ways of execution for each of these, but now I'm seeing and hearing coaches teach the execution the same way for each, could we get some clarification on positiong at the plate for each so I can let my daughter know which definition goes with each type? Thank You.

 

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I believe most are teaching to start from the same location in the batters box as not to tip off the defense as to what the batter will be executing

 

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Many of the college camps teach the cross over step bunting style. It has many advantages. You still do not move till the pitcher is in motion. It confuses the defense as many think you are slapping or dragging. . You catch the ball in front of the plate, while moving to first.

 

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besides the regular bunt, there are Slug, Slap, and Drag? Correct? I was taght different ways of execution for each of these, but now I'm seeing and hearing coaches teach the execution the same way for each, could we get some clarification on positiong at the plate for each so I can let my daughter know which definition goes with each type? Thank You.

These are my interpretations, and the way I teach the slap, slug, and drag. ?Not sure that these are the "universal" ways of teaching.

For all three, I teach my batter to stay in the same location, as if they were hitting. ?This will keep the defense guessing as to what may be coming.

SLAP
I will be in my hitting position. ?My first movements will be a top hand sliding up the bat, and my front foot taking a small drop step toward the heel of the back foot. ?The next movement will be a cross over step of the back foot, toward second base, while keeping the shoulders and hands back. ?I want contact to be made as my crossover foot is coming down, just prior to, or at contact with the ground. ?The hands should be traveling in a downward angle, from like a 1 o'clock to a 7 o'clock position, with a high follow through, after contact.

SLUG-show bunt and slap
I will be in my hitting position. ?My first movements will be a top hand sliding up the bat, and my front foot taking a small drop step toward the heel of the back foot. ?The next movement will be a cross over step of the back foot, toward second base. ?Upon landing of the foot, I will now be in the bunting position. ?Upon release of the pitch, I will start to pull the hands back to a hitting position, with little or no rotation of the shoulders. ?As the ball reaches the contact zone I will then be swinging with a level to slightly downward hand path.

DRAG
I will be in my hitting position. ?My first movements will be a top hand sliding up the bat, and my front foot taking a small drop step toward the heel of the back foot. ?The next movement will be a cross over step of the back foot, toward second base, while keeping the shoulders and hands back. ?I want contact to be made as my crossover foot is coming down, just prior to, or at contact with the ground. ?Very similar to the slapping technique. ?The major difference will be in what I do with the hands. ?The hands will stay back, at or behind the back hip, depending upon the location of the pitch, throughout the process. ?I will be attempting to set an angle with my bat, and dragging the ball with me as I am moving. ?There will be no follow through with the bat or hands, which will cause the ball to travel a shorter distance.

 

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Thanks lady knights that is sorta what I was thinking just a little different which is usual for all coaches

 

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Thanks lady knights that is sorta what I was thinking just a little different which is usual for all coaches

Some of the form probably got lost in my translation, and trying to keep under 25,000 words. ;D

 

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Shayne good job of going into detail. The only thing I run up against , many still do not teach the cross over step. They bunt like baseball and square up.

 

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One thing of note: From a rules standpoint, neither the "slap" nor "slug" technically meet the rule book definition of a "bunt". In other words, a player executing either of those and fouling one off with two strikes should not be called out. Both techniques should be regarded as a "swing" since the bat is moving forward in an arc from around the shoulder area to the ball contact point.

The "drag", depending on how it is executed, should almost always be regarded as a bunt, since the bat is held in position and allowed to softly tap the ball.

 

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Thanks this was helpful my dd does do the step over, and lay each perfectly So watch out when shes up to bat cuz she's got a mean slug.

 

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All,

Slug is a new term to me. Is it the same as a push bunt where the hitter goes into the bunt position and then instead of killing the ball with the bat they push at it and try to punch it past the charging infield?

Elliott

 

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Elliot,

The term seems fairly common in these parts. We're going to have to get you back up here in Ohio!

If it's the same thing everyone is talking about, here's how I would describe it: The batter squares as if to bunt, hoping to draw the infield in. As the pitch is released, the batter draws the bat back and either executes a full swing or, usually, a half-swing to punch the ball over or past the infielders.

Essentially, it is just a fake bunt then a swing.

 

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Elliot,

The term seems fairly common in these parts. We're going to have to get you back up here in Ohio! ?

If it's the same thing everyone is talking about, here's how I would describe it: The batter squares as if to bunt, hoping to draw the infield in. As the pitch is released, the batter draws the bat back and either executes a full swing or, usually, a half-swing to punch the ball over or past the infielders.

Essentially, it is just a fake bunt then a swing.

Yes, this is what I refer to as the "Slug" in fastpitch.


And a "Push Bunt" is just how Elliot explained it....

A push bunt where the hitter goes into the bunt position and then instead of killing the ball with the bat they push at it and try to punch it past the charging infield.

 

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Since I am not totally clear on all of these- do you do any of them from the right side? I've never seen a right-handed slapper. Also, as I am reading this, do you all teach bunting with a crossover step like slapping? Can anyone explain this a little more, and do you do this from both sides of the plate?

Thanks

 

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My daughter is right handed can bat either side now but when she first started she did her slap and slug from the right and drag from the left.

 

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Witz I sent you a PM on the cross over. Swfastpitch. My dd was a switch hitter. If they can bat left, you need to keep her only on the left side. That is what we did with her after talking to some hitting coaches. Younger the better. Most tell you do not switch hit. If they are scouting you and your dd only slaps when batting left all the defenses will adjust. If she can hit,bunt. slap from the left. She will be a nightmare to defend.