Temporary fencing ground rules question

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I know what the rules are for foul fly balls that are caught and then the player goes into the out of play area. My questions have to do with temporary fences, when, for example, the center fielder makes a running catch and ends up going into the fence and may get tangled up or may roll over the fence. What are the calls?

Thanks in advance--we have temp fences this yearfor the first time at Beavercreek and are trying to prepare ground rules--since they could come into play.

Bob

 

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Every tournament I've been to with temporary fencing has the same rules as permanant fences. If you roll over the fence, it is a homerun the same as if you dove over the fence. The fence should be taunt enough to not get tangled in it. I've seen it go under like an ordinary fence with the same rules applied. Never heard of different rules for the temp fences.

 

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Like Klump said, you treat it just like any other fence or boundary between live and dead-ball areas.

About the only thing out of the ordinary with a temporary fence is the greater possibility of it collapsing if a player runs into it. The same rule applies if a "permanent" fence collapses, but it's more likely to happen with temporary fencing.

The ASA interpretation of a collapsed fence is that if the fence collapses outward, it essentially "extends" the playing field. That is, if the fence is laying on the ground, and the fielder is standing on it, she is considered to still be in live ball territory. A fielder isn't considered to be in dead-ball areas until she steps on the ground beyond the extended length of the collapsed fence.

 

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Klump and Bretman--thanks--that's the way I saw it, but having temp fences for first time, I wanted to be clear on the rules.

Bob

 

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If the ball rolls under the fence it is 2 bases..

If the girl runs and dives and catches the ball in mid-air and her two feet is in play at the catch..it is an out and when she falls then out of play... then all runners are given one base..except the batter and she is out.

 

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Bretman, slightly different question...what if a hit ball ball bounces off of a fielders head who has misplayed a fly ball and the result is that the ball goes over the outfiled fence?

Homerun, or double?

 

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Ahh. the Canseco rule - homerun...

 

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Yep, that's a dinger!

As long as the batted ball meets the definition of still being "in-flight" (and this one would, because the only thing it touched was a defensive player) and subsequently clears the fence over fair ground, it is a home run.

If this same ball cleared the fence over foul ground, then it would be a two-base award.

 

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"The ASA interpretation of a collapsed fence is that if the fence collapses outward, it essentially "extends" the playing field. That is, if the fence is laying on the ground, and the fielder is standing on it, she is considered to still be in live ball territory. A fielder isn't considered to be in dead-ball areas until she steps on the ground beyond the extended length of the collapsed fence"

Even though my DD's a pitcher, this rule had to be dreamed up by a pitcher's dad! lol! To me, this is like moving the basket in basketball so the shooter would miss! Somehow, altering the original dimensions of the playing field that were established at the beginning of the game just seems too weird to me. You must have a degree of safety (the "breakaway" pvc plastic fence), but knocking it over to make a catch you couldn't otherwise reach? Now CLIMBING the fence is another story, because you haven't altered the playing field. There was something in the brownies at THAT meeting!