Timed games?!

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With 15 minutes left in the game, the ump says play it like this is the last inning. I'm not starting another inning with 3 minutes left. The score was 7-6. We ended up tying it up that inning, taking the ump's judgement out of play. Is this normal, a game that close should play the full time limit, if there is 3 minutes left I feel you should start the next inning, and this was bracket play.

 

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I have had an inning get started with seconds left. Last out of the home team starts new inning, even if the ump tries to say you didnt have a batter ready to go (They tried that one before too).

I just bites when someone else tries to take the game out of the players hands, goto love full seven inning games.

 

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Thank you, it was very hot this weekend, I think he was wanting to get off the field, very good ump otherwise.

 

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Obviously the ump has no right to cut the game short. Now, if it was a revert back rule, I guess one could argue that there's no way you can get another full inning in within 3 minutes, but again that's not his call to make. If he stops the game short and I am behind, I would threaten protest in a bracket game like this and tell him I am going straight to the TD. Yeah, I would cough up the $100 or whatever it costs to make my point on this one.

 

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Hats off to Timers that are on the scoreboard or hung on backstop!!!!!!
It is ridiculous for any Ump to bend ANY rule as he sees fit.......I have had Umps look at me & inform me 4 minutes to go, make sure you go to mound or check with your pitcher, etc. While maybe not right, they are trying to do it sneaky - But not bend.....We had an inning end with about 5 seconds on the clock....Ump did right & we played another....If we were behind, I'd been ticked no matter by how much - so gotta be fine when they do as suppose to!!!!!!

An Ump that will cheat kids out of a game to just get it over, will make bad calls just to get it over!!!!! They need to be put out for good!!!!

 

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They do not have the right to bend the rules. If the rule states no new inning after time then I don't care if there is 1 second left when the inning ends. The next inning automatically starts.

 

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we made the ump go into another inning with 2 seconds left at GAPSS.... his goofiness said the next inning started with the "next pitch"... and not the put-out from the prior inning. My UIC friend had to educate the young man. Geesh, still lost but that's not the point ;-). C'mooon BLUE!!!! Well run tournament though and loved the competition. Just glad DOOM 97 did tar and feather us! Long hot day and the injury bug was working heavily on both teams.

 

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With 15 minutes left in the game, the ump says play it like this is the last inning. I'm not starting another inning with 3 minutes left. The score was 7-6. We ended up tying it up that inning, taking the ump's judgement out of play. Is this normal, a game that close should play the full time limit, if there is 3 minutes left I feel you should start the next inning, and this was bracket play.

If this was Bracket play it can't end in a tie, what did you do?

 

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We tied it up, forcing another inning. Then proceeded to give up 5 runs in the next, we lost.

 

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we made the ump go into another inning with 2 seconds left at GAPSS.... his goofiness said the next inning started with the "next pitch"... and not the put-out from the prior inning. My UIC friend had to educate the young man. Geesh, still lost but that's not the point ;-). C'mooon BLUE!!!! Well run tournament though and loved the competition. Just glad DOOM 97 did tar and feather us! Long hot day and the injury bug was working heavily on both teams.

Yes that was a great game. But it put our game over an hour behind. We did not start our game until 10:40 pm which ended just after Midnight. We played a great game and had to play that morning at 8:00 am, the girls were just to tired to play on just 4 1/2 hrs of sleep. Lost and went home, which was ok because there was no way we could play 7 games back to back to win GAPPS after that. Great tournament loves ever minute of it.

 

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Played a tournament this weekend with no new inning after 60 minutes and drop dead time at 70 minutes. We were the home team and came from behind and tied the game with about 30 seconds left. We had runners at 2nd and 3rd but since we only had 2 outs at the 70 minute mark, ump said game over and had to revert back to last inning because we didn't finish this inning and lost 4-3. A win would have put us in the championship game.

 

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Played a tournament this weekend with no new inning after 60 minutes and drop dead time at 70 minutes. We were the home team and came from behind and tied the game with about 30 seconds left. We had runners at 2nd and 3rd but since we only had 2 outs at the 70 minute mark, ump said game over and had to revert back to last inning because we didn't finish this inning and lost 4-3. A win would have put us in the championship game.

Next time have one of those runners leave early so it's a completed inning. Bracket games can't end in a tie so you would have bought another inning to play it out.

 

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Played a tournament this weekend with no new inning after 60 minutes and drop dead time at 70 minutes. We were the home team and came from behind and tied the game with about 30 seconds left. We had runners at 2nd and 3rd but since we only had 2 outs at the 70 minute mark, ump said game over and had to revert back to last inning because we didn't finish this inning and lost 4-3. A win would have put us in the championship game.

Were those the original time limits or were they shortened after the tourney started? Those time limits seem awfully short and drop dead should not be used in bracket games unless absolutely necessary to finish tourney.

Is it common back there to always revert at drop dead time? Common practice here is to only revert if time expires in top half of inning or it's in best interest of home team. We don't revert if time expires in bottom of inning and home team is winning.

I don't know of a sanction with revert rules for drop dead games. TDs need to spell it out in their rules and make sure the umpires know them.

 

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Were those the original time limits or were they shortened after the tourney started? Those time limits seem awfully short and drop dead should not be used in bracket games unless absolutely necessary to finish tourney.

Is it common back there to always revert at drop dead time? Common practice here is to only revert if time expires in top half of inning or it's in best interest of home team. We don't revert if time expires in bottom of inning and home team is winning.

I don't know of a sanction with revert rules for drop dead games. TDs need to spell it out in their rules and make sure the umpires know them.

I wasn't there but this is a common practice when tournaments get hit with rain. This way the TD gets the games in and keeps coaches at bay who want a refund.

 

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I don't know of a sanction with revert rules for drop dead games. TDs need to spell it out in their rules and make sure the umpires know them.

I don't know of any sanctioning body that mentions drop dead games in their rule book. With respect to "reverting back", the closest thing you'll probably find are the rules that address when a game has progressed beyond the point of being "official" (5 innings), but is ended prematurely due to weather or darkness.

That said, if the home team is losing in the bottom of the inning, you revert back because they didn't get the benefit of playing a complete half-inning.

If the score is tied, or the home team is ahead, then you stick with that result. In that case, the home team wasn't totally disadvantaged by their at-bat being cut short.

Yes, greatly agree that TD's need to spell out their special rules and communicate them to the umpires before the games!

 

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I don't know of any sanctioning body that mentions drop dead games in their rule book. With respect to "reverting back", the closest thing you'll probably find are the rules that address when a game has progressed beyond the point of being "official" (5 innings), but is ended prematurely due to weather or darkness.

That said, if the home team is losing in the bottom of the inning, you revert back because they didn't get the benefit of playing a complete half-inning.

If the score is tied, or the home team is ahead, then you stick with that result. In that case, the home team wasn't totally disadvantaged by their at-bat being cut short.

Yes, greatly agree that TD's need to spell out their special rules and communicate them to the umpires before the games!

Excellent point on using the rules for regulation games called (i.e. stopped) by an umpire.

Keeping a tie score makes sense in games that don't allow ties because the game is resumed from that point. In pool games that are allowed to end in a tie, the home team is greatly disadvantaged if the other team tied the score or took a lead in the top half of the inning.