What format would OFC members like to see used by (TD'S) when posting tournament results on the foru

[TheSoftballZone]

Open discussing for all the OFC members. Since the voting is over and 94.12% of the members said they want to see (TD'S) posting the results on the forum. We need to come up with a easy and clean format. So lets all put are heads together and come up with a format that works for everyone. Remember were not talking about posting all results for every game. Were talking about posting the final standings on all the teams in the event.


I always like a clean style that simple here one of my example below.

Name of Tournament Date age group


1st -
2nd -
3rd -
4th -
T5th -
T5th -
7th -
T8th -
T8th -
10th -

Nothing fancy just the results and names.

What do you think OFC members?

 

[Pacerdad57]

Why not end pool play just showing the seedings for bracket like you have shown, then follow bracket play a little more closely.
the TD has the brackets posted and updated after every game, why not just snap a quick pic of the bracket board and post every couple of hours, shouldn't take too much effort or time i wouldn't think.
this could be a little problematic in the huge tournies i suppose, but still doable.

 

[coachjwb]

I think either the standings as Ricky has posted, or a copy of the brackets would work ... give TD's a choice ... whatever is easiest for them. Posting pool results or standings, a link to their website with more details on scores, or posting the bracket here during the course of the day would be nice bonuses. But the final standings/bracket should be required to be posted on this Forum in my opinion if you have used the Forum to promote your event.

 

[SonicMojo]

Any is fine. Just show games and scores of both pool and bracket play. Can be picture of pool and bracket results, or typed in. Doesn't matter. Whatever is the easiest way for the TDs to get the results on here.

 

[wvanalmsick]

The initial question was to members want TDs to post the Final Result of the a tournament. (Team A beat Team B to win the "I'm the best team Tournament")

Then it was list the order of finish.

Now people want pool results and all the scores from bracket play.

How will this new rule be enforced? Will you be removing tournament post the next year if they post? Will the tournament be removed from the tournament calendar? What's to stop a regular member from copying and pasting of tournament applications and advertisements?

This is going to turn into a goat-rope.

Just saying.

 

[SOFTBALLS14]

At the end of the tourney we would like to see final brackets filled out with game scores. OR a list of Teams as you have above.
The picture of the final bracket or even the link to the final brackets works too....!!
What ever works for the TD..!
But just get it out there .....Some of the big tourneys do the link ... some do nothing ....Please Don't do nothing to many families are following teams!

 

[coachjwb]

Bill ... while some will want scores of all games and may post it in the thread here, I think Ricky is trying to get a consensus of what's reasonable. Order of finish or copy of the bracket has been suggested by 3 of the 4 of us who posted ... no scores, no pool play results ... though of course more would be nice. Of the 95% who voted for TD's posting, my guess is that the majority of them were not thinking the same as you in terms of the results of the final game only. That's why Ricky posted this second thread ... to sort out what truly is reasonable. There actually may be a lot of people who will say and will always say that they want the score of every game, but I can assure you that Ricky isn't not going to let people post their tourneys if they don't do that. So many TD's who do use the Forum to advertise never bother to post any results, and that doesn't seem right ...

 

[kelbot]

The proposed format is sufficient and a huge step in the right direction. But anything above and beyond (scores, overall records, 1 or 2 sentence recap of the championship or other noteworthy game) would be great.

In terms of enforcement of this policy, I thought it was more of an honor system with public shaming being the only real repercussion.

 

[WWolff]

We use Tourney Machine to post all scores and think it is a awesome way to do so, and will continue to do so at this point. we always put a link and information on here for all our qualifiers and elimination tournaments.

 

[raidian70]

I think posting the pool results is completely reasonable in addition to the bracket. Every TD if they are doing pool play into bracket play has a sheet or a poster board somewhere around the tournament where the pool results are posted. I haven't been to one where they didn't have one. All that needs done is exactly what has been said about the bracket. Take a picture of the grid and post it. Those who want the pool results can take the time to figure them out if they want. But if it doesn't take long to take a picture of the bracket and post it, it shouldn't take long to do the same with the pool results either.

Now things like Tourney Machine and Tournament ASA certainly make things easier if you are technologically inclined, but the posting of pool results by taking a picture of the grid with pool results also would not take much time either.

 

[Lasers 04 Coach Mike]

This is a topic every flippin' year. Some TD's will post results and others will not. IMO; For those that post results; thank you! For those that do not; It's okay TOO! Bottom line is; Nothing will be done about it this year, or the next, nor there after. If you want results that bad, go to the tournament or send a scout!

So I guess I'll have to prepare myself for this same post in 2017

 

[TheSoftballZone]

This is a topic every flippin' year. Some TD's will post results and others will not. IMO; For those that post results; thank you! For those that do not; It's okay TOO! Bottom line is; Nothing will be done about it this year, or the next, nor there after. If you want results that bad, go to the tournament or send a scout!

So I guess I'll have to prepare myself for this same post in 2017

Mike I'm not sure if your reading the same post that we're talking about or not? Yes it's been brought up before many times in the last 3 years. The why it was never a probelm. You could almost find all the results ever Monday or by Tuesday at the latest on the (TD'S) org posting that was aimed at promoting his/her tournament.

I disgree with you 100% that it's fine for (TD'S) that don't take the time to post the results of his/her tournament. If I felt that it was OK I wouldn't even have this up for discussion. If tournament director don't have the time to post results on the very same forum that help fill-up thier tournaments then it truly nothing more then a one street.

The forum is a place for information and members have spoken by a land slide vote that they wish to see results posted. It's not about scouting teams it's about getting information in front of members of this site and in this discussion were talking about coming up with a format that will achieve that.

 

[Lasers 04 Coach Mike]

Mike I'm not sure if your reading the same post that we're talking about or not? Yes it's been brought up before many times in the last 3 years. The why it was never a probelm. You could almost find all the results ever Monday or by Tuesday at the latest on the (TD'S) org posting that was aimed at promoting his/her tournament.

I disgree with you 100% that it's fine for (TD'S) that don't take the time to post the results of his/her tournament. If I felt that it was OK I wouldn't even have this up for discussion. If tournament director don't have the time to post results on the very same forum that help fill-up thier tournaments then it truly nothing more then a one street.



The forum is a place for information and members have spoken by a land slide vote that they wish to see results posted. It's not about scouting teams it's about getting information in front of members of this site and in this discussion were talking about coming up with a format that will achieve that.

I have read both threads and still scratch my head??? Have you ever considered that there are more places then just "The softball Zone" for TD's to promote tournaments. Should the Tournament directors be required to post results on all the forums/websites they utilize to draw teams in? Just a thought?? It's the same users every year that bring up this topic. So either block TD
IP's for not turning in the results, or let it go!JMHO

 

[TheSoftballZone]

Your right Mike lots of ways to promote your events. But I do believe TheSoftballZone has a proving track record of success for advertising tournaments in this region. And unlike other methods of advertisement available to (TD'S) TheSoftballZone give it to anyone at no cost.

 

[coachjwb]

Mike ... I would wager to say that 80% of the 95% who voted they want to see results are not scouting at all. They are people who follow and love the sport, and want to see how teams are doing. They see dozens and dozens of posts leading up to the tournament about it and then crickets. I don't even coach a travel team any more ... I manage to make it to a few tournaments here and there each year ... but usually for only one day. I have other responsibilities and can't make it to the entire tournament, but want to see how things ended up. Heck, even teams that played in the tourney that got knocked out earlier on Sunday want to hear how things ended up, right? You're entitled to your opinion ... just know that you're in the 5% not the 95%.

 

[Lasers 04 Coach Mike]

Mike ... I would wager to say that 80% of the 95% who voted they want to see results are not scouting at all. They are people who follow and love the sport, and want to see how teams are doing. They see dozens and dozens of posts leading up to the tournament about it and then crickets. I don't even coach a travel team any more ... I manage to make it to a few tournaments here and there each year ... but usually for only one day. I have other responsibilities and can't make it to the entire tournament, but want to see how things ended up. Heck, even teams that played in the tourney that got knocked out earlier on Sunday want to hear how things ended up, right? You're entitled to your opinion ... just know that you're in the 5% not the 95%.

Lets see, 5% or 95% of 85 total votes for this poll?
There are 6,835 Members on this forum and 1,018 Active Members, However, only 85 users voted. Lets break this down; 1.2% of 6835 members or 8.3% of active members cared enough to vote on this thread. Your right, I am not one of the of 85 users. I am however one of the 6835 members that declined to vote on this non-sense.

 

[TheSoftballZone]

I'm sorry Mike next time I'll put a (I don't care choice on the poll, but I'm retaining my right to complain about it when the poll close)

 

[Heavy Hitter]

Your right Mike lots of ways to promote your events. But I do believe TheSoftballZone has a proving track record of success for advertising tournaments in this region. And unlike other methods of advertisement available to (TD'S) TheSoftballZone give it to anyone at no cost.

This your site and I think requiring TD to post result is not asking too much. I personally think if the TD doesn’t then you ban them from promoting that tournament on your site in the future.

 

[TheSoftballZone]

We're still looking for input before we set guildlines for (TD'S) usage on the forum as a place to promote and advertise thier evnts.

Here some guildlines that we have already set as a minimum requirement.

(TD'S) will need to place a OFC banner on thier tournament websie.
(TD'S) will need to post results on the forum.
(TD'S) will help promote OFC by passing out flyers during thier event.

These are mandatory requirements for all (TD'S). Tournament Directors that wish to use the site only to promote or advertise your events on the forum can contact me for posting fee's. These fee's will be used to pay for promotion and advertisement of this site. I'm currently working on the details. Once we have everything ready to go I will post a new thread that will have links to banners and flyers and will also contain the format that will be used when posting your tournament results.
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[coachjwb]

Mike ... since you copied my post, let me just address a few things. Whether it's "required" or not is up to Ricky ... it's his Forum, and he has done more for the Ohio-region softball community over the years than 99.9% of the people on this Forum could ever hope to. I personally wouldn't want to see tournaments not being posted here at all because the TD's don't post the results, but I will gladly debate with you whether this poll was "statistically significant", and whether the users of this Forum have spoken their opinion. I don't know how "active members" is arrived at, but for you to take the voters as a % of all 6800 members is ridiculous. And to imply that the other 6700 thought it was "nonsense" too is also ridiculous. Anyone who follows this forum knows that the number of people who post on an even semi-regular isn't more than a few hundred. I was impressed by the fact that 90 users voted ... that's a lot. People on this forum have expressed their opinion and it wasn't close. It's OK if you don't agree ... it really is, but when you try to discount such overwhelming results, you are insulting everyone who took the survey.