What is the status of the Ohio "Beverly Bandits"

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I have read some items on here that indicated that there might be a new Beverly Bandits team from Ohio. Does anyone know anything about this?

 

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Ask the Prantls

 

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Have heard the same. Why doesnt a coach or two bite the bullet and combine teams, so that Ohio can have National contenders year after year. In can think of two teams in each age group from 96 to 98 that could join forces and be lights out. They would have to play out of state a lot to get competition, but isn't that why kids go to the Bandits etc..to get the exposure at the big tournies with like minded families? I know there are folks in Central Ohio who will gladly shell out the greenbacks to get the needed exposure...

 

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Valley,
Lasers Gold beat the Bandits this year.
Lasers are in the process of revamping the program...I fully expect the 98 Lasers to give the 14u Bandits a run for the money.
Yes, more and more families are willing to leg the miles and shell out the $$$ to play the best week in and week out.
The Ohio culture is slowly changing, just look at what Classics 96 and Miami Valley are putting together for next year.
Gotta get Ohio parents to buy into the 15-16 player roster with deep pitching and catching

 

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Part of the problem is that there are about 15 teams in each age division saying that they are going to play a competitive ASA/USA schedule, but in reality they are only going to play in one or two qualifiers and have no intent on actually going, let alone competing vs teams like the bandits.

 

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catalyst, couldn't agree more.....Fill a schedule playing PGF, Surf City, St Louis, Heartland, Sparks, Boulder, Rising Stars and one or two ASA Q.

Look at the schedules of the midwest/ eastcoast teams: Illinois Chill,Bandits, NJ Intensity, NJ Breakers

Problem in Ohio is having the name to get into those tournis. That's why Bill went to the Chill and thats why kids go to the Bandits because the Bandits don't play daddy ball (non parent coaches is mandatory) and every kid earns there spot every inning and those teams produce.

 

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Couldn't agree more with both of you...looks like the tides are slowly changing, hopefully folks can wrap their minds around the fact that exposure at 14u is getting more important and getting to some of the high exposure tournies .. At the right fields..takes more than just a good team..Name recognition goes a long way..

 

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Valley,
Lasers Gold beat the Bandits this year.
Lasers are in the process of revamping the program...I fully expect the 98 Lasers to give the 14u Bandits a run for the money.
Yes, more and more families are willing to leg the miles and shell out the $$$ to play the best week in and week out.
The Ohio culture is slowly changing, just look at what Classics 96 and Miami Valley are putting together for next year.
Gotta get Ohio parents to buy into the 15-16 player roster with deep pitching and catching

What is Classics 96 doing?

 

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It's usually one of two things that keep Ohio from putting together a loaded team.
$$$$$/Travel or Ego.

Some people think that the money spent to compete at that level outweighs the gain.

Parents have to get used to their DD not playing SS/Pitching every game. The big time teams roster 15+ and have 2/3 girls per position. Often the backup is just as good as the primary, the only thing separating them is which one is hot at the plate.

My guess is that the parents that take their kids to the bandits, are tired of looking or waiting for an Ohio team to take on the challenge.

I got a chance to watch the 18u bandits play this week, I'm glad that these have found teams that fulfill their needs.

 

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What is Classics 96 doing?

Take a look at thier thread which lays out the teams intentions for 2013- it includes Colorado, Sparks...this is a good move in the right direction. Same with MVE showcase team. I've noticed that more Ohio teams at the 14 & 16 age group seem to be advertising that they will be playing out of state (more than just nationals).

 

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the comment about $$$$ / time spent away from home is right on. How many families want to spend $10,000 for the summer and drag the whole family around just so suzie can play the best competition and gain exposure, only to find out after 3 years and $45,000 later that suzie wants to play close to home and takes a partial offer from an Ohio DII school? And what about Suzie's sister who wants to play travel ball also? Who takes her to her weekend tournaments? Now the family is split for the whole summer.


just my take on why it is hard to put a truly elite team together and keep them together.

 

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If a team from Ohio goes to Cali to play, how many girls are really going to get any benefit or good exposure out of it. Not all of them. A few maybe??The rest are subsubsidizing those few. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see any more getting any exposure going up against Cali girls. How many D1 schools going to Cali tourneys are giving Ohio girls a serious look? How many girls would they look at? I would guess it's only a few stud pitchers and maybe some stud hitters. Hard for most to justify the money.

I would go because it's Cali and would make it a family vacation. It would be for fun and not exposure. Wouldn't kid myself.

 

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It's usually one of two things that keep Ohio from putting together a loaded team.
$$$$$/Travel or Ego.

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Agree with the EGO statement- let's be perfectly honest with ourselves, you have to be pretty darn good to even get asked to go to a "workout" with the BANDITS...they draw talent from several states and not every kid is capable of playing at that level (and that is okay too) those teams don't have tryouts, they KNOW who is good already. Studs standout and word spread quickly (their parents don't need to PR, everyone else is doing that for them)

 

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one thing i don't fully understand is why spend the big bucks and be away from home quite a bit ( ok alot lol) when your kid already has a verbal -- just for the competition i guess ? most , not all , but most are not going to top 30 schools, and not going to schools out west , so why go play colorado, Cali etc etc when most can be seen at Lasers, Stingrays , best of the best , ASA states etc etc .. obviously if you have a kid signing with a top 30 team you would want to play the best national competition but there isnt a bunch of ohio kids signing with top 30 programs . MD

 

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Take a look at thier thread which lays out the teams intentions for 2013- it includes Colorado, Sparks...this is a good move in the right direction. Same with MVE showcase team. I've noticed that more Ohio teams at the 14 & 16 age group seem to be advertising that they will be playing out of state (more than just nationals).

Couldn?t agree more. If you look at Lasers, Doom, MVE, Classics, they not only hit the major showcase tournaments that the SEC, PAC 12, Big 12, etc attend; but also the local major showcase as well like Lasers and Stingrays which may have an SEC team attend, Big 10, MAC, etc. There is a good mix for both the dreamers (who may be good enough just not enough finances to afford the constant travel) and those who want to stay local. Sure it isn?t cheap and a sacrifice, but worth it. I?m blessed to only have one dd who plays at a high level and one who just wants to play hs ball. Those who have to spend summers apart, sorry.


We?ve been to 4 summer camps this year, and all say the same thing. The NCAA only gives us 50 travel days away from campus for recruitment and that must be split up amongst the coaches. The three biggest they hit is the PGF Nationals, Sparkler, and ASA/USA. Lastly, they did state you need to get on a team that attends those tournaments. Sparkler, they take all and is no invite, PGF you need an invite (so org recognition is a must) then qualify, ASA/USA we all know what you need to do to go there.

As for the original question, they exist.

 

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If a team from Ohio goes to Cali to play, how many girls are really going to get any benefit or good exposure out of it. Not all of them. A few maybe??The rest are subsubsidizing those few. Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see any more getting any exposure going up against Cali girls. How many D1 schools going to Cali tourneys are giving Ohio girls a serious look? How many girls would they look at? I would guess it's only a few stud pitchers and maybe some stud hitters. Hard for most to justify the money.

I would go because it's Cali and would make it a family vacation. It would be for fun and not exposure. Wouldn't kid myself.

I think you've hit the nail on the head, a lot of Ohio teams have a mix of girls with different talent levels and differing views of what they want out of the travel experience. Thats why it is so important when picking a team that the goals of all the girls are the same. If your dd wants to go to a bcs or top 25 program, then she has to play with girls that have the same aspirations.

If you pick a team where your dd will be the stud of the team and she plays with other girls that do not have the desire, or skill set, to compete at the bcs or d1 level, the team will not be able to draw the coaches to see the one stud on the team. At that point you have to chose to either move on to a like minded team or resign yourself to take the looks from coaches that you can scrape up.

As for how many d1 schools are giving Ohio girls a serious look, the depends on the team. I guarantee the Ohio girls on the Bandits teams, had a group of big time schools watching just base on his rep. And none of the girls on his team expect any less than getting a BCS or D1 offer because they want to compete with the best of the best at all times.

Just check out the scholarships and the schools on the Bandits home page. nuff said

http://thebeverlybandits.com/index.html

 

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The three biggest they hit is the PGF Nationals, Sparkler, and ASA/USA. Lastly, they did state you need to get on a team that attends those tournaments. Sparkler, they take all and is no invite, PGF you need an invite (so org recognition is a must) then qualify, ASA/USA we all know what you need to do to go there.

As for the original question, they exist.

Did they really say Sparkler, or was it Boulder and maybe Fireworks? You see way more Div. I coaches at Boulder, then Fireworks, than Sparkler.

 

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Did they really say Sparkler, or was it Boulder and maybe Fireworks? You see way more Div. I coaches at Boulder, then Fireworks, than Sparkler.

Both.

 

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i think you've hit the nail on the head, a lot of ohio teams have a mix of girls with different talent levels and differing views of what they want out of the travel experience. Thats why it is so important when picking a team that the goals of all the girls are the same. If your dd wants to go to a bcs or top 25 program, then she has to play with girls that have the same aspirations.

If you pick a team where your dd will be the stud of the team and she plays with other girls that do not have the desire, or skill set, to compete at the bcs or d1 level, the team will not be able to draw the coaches to see the one stud on the team. At that point you have to chose to either move on to a like minded team or resign yourself to take the looks from coaches that you can scrape up.

bingo

 

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Have heard the same. Why doesnt a coach or two bite the bullet and combine teams, so that Ohio can have National contenders year after year. In can think of two teams in each age group from 96 to 98 that could join forces and be lights out. They would have to play out of state a lot to get competition, but isn't that why kids go to the Bandits etc..to get the exposure at the big tournies with like minded families? I know there are folks in Central Ohio who will gladly shell out the greenbacks to get the needed exposure...

What Ohio really needs are coaches with the experience and track record to run those teams/orgs. You're developing enough players with the individual skills to compete, but the teams are lacking some of the more advanced team and game aspects to contend consistently. Talent alone only gets a team so far.

The top organizations in SoCal and other areas are predominantly run by successful Gold (now PGF 18HS) coaches who know how to properly assemble larger rosters and manage them; train players on advanced team defense and game tactics; and develop/manage/execute game strategy. This knowledge is carried down through the organization by a combination of directly instructing younger teams, mentoring their coaches and having coaches with experience at higher-levels running younger teams. It will be interesting to see if/how the Bandits will provide this.

In the absence of 18HS coaches, college coaches would be a good local resource for developing what is needed. It can't all be learned by reading and/or some single sessions though - coaches need to be coached over an extended time, just like players. Note: NCAA rules allow college coaches to be involved with local sports teams without it being considered contact or against their allotted days as long as all the players' legal residence is within 50 miles of the school.