Pitching and Pitchers Discussion when do u learn a third pitch?

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When do you learn a new pitch? When the ones you are using are getting crushed. Sorry for the hijack. I just couldent help myself.

Tim

If the pitches you are using are getting crushed, than you need to work on hitting your spots (control). The pitchers shouldn't put the ball where it can be crushed.

 

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When you have mastered the first two.

 

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My DD went 10-1, 2 no-hitters, 1.13 ERA, .82 WHIP and several post season honors last season using only a fastball, changeup and rise.

 

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Our oldest DD had 3 differnt pitches at 10u. They were Ball, Strike and what the &@% was that.

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

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lots of funny stuff here...thx for the responses. my takeaway here is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes...theres def. no fairy tale to look for and seven pitches is too many. ill error on the side of caution and suggest that whe a pitchet can USUALLY spot her fastball use her change reliably when ahead in the count shes ready for a third pitch. that should settle it once and for all right? lol...q

 

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Our oldest DD had 3 differnt pitches at 10u. They were Ball, Strike and what the &@% was that.

Beautiful!:lmao:

 

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Our oldest DD had 3 differnt pitches at 10u. They were Ball, Strike and what the &@% was that.

Don't forget over the backstop.....your not a pitcher till you throw one over the backstop....

 

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Don't forget over the backstop.....your not a pitcher till you throw one over the backstop....

Way back my DD played with a girl who pitched one over the backstop and through consession stand window. That girl is now a college outfielder lol.

 

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Way back my DD played with a girl who pitched one over the backstop and through consession stand window. That girl is now a college outfielder lol.

And that's why certain pitchers stay pitchers and why other may not. When my DD was 11U and trying to throw her change up during a game, she threw one over the backstop much to the delight of the opposing dugout. Lots of laughter even from the stands.
The next one she tried rolled on the ground for about 10 feet until it hit got to the plate.
After the game I asked her how she felt about the laughter, etc. She said it was kind of embarrassing, but 3 years later she is still on the mound, throwing some good change-ups, some not so good. I think that the ability to move on mentally is a major key to a pitchers success. I thinks as a DD's dad, we often times don't recognize or appreciate how tough it is mentally to be out there on the mound with all eyes on you.

 

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My DD threw one over the backstop once during warmups - it was a very short backstop! If you have a good pitching coach who has worked with proven pitchers, then trust that person's judgement on adding pitches. If it doesn't feel right, your dd will know.

 

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And that's why certain pitchers stay pitchers and why other may not. When my DD was 11U and trying to throw her change up during a game, she threw one over the backstop much to the delight of the opposing dugout. Lots of laughter even from the stands.
The next one she tried rolled on the ground for about 10 feet until it hit got to the plate.
After the game I asked her how she felt about the laughter, etc. She said it was kind of embarrassing, but 3 years later she is still on the mound, throwing some good change-ups, some not so good. I think that the ability to move on mentally is a major key to a pitchers success. I thinks as a DD's dad, we often times don't recognize or appreciate how tough it is mentally to be out there on the mound with all eyes on you.

I'm not sure that's being mentally tough or just not taking yourself to serious. Parents that can laugh with their kids and don't think a 10u or 12u game is the college world series have kids that play the game with joy. Everything can get traced back the parents. So if your DD is able to bounce back from an embarrassing moment like that and stick with it, be proud of her but also know you should be proud of yourself as well. You gave her the tools to handle it and also allowed her sport to teach her life lessons.

It's interesting really, especially with pitchers due to how much they are involved with the game, they can't hide who they are for long. Ever see a pitcher stomping around the mound and glaring at a defense after a mistake, most times mom or dad on the car rides home blame everybody else after a loss Or the kid that nothing bothers while she's on the mound, plays hard and thrives in pressure situation, her parents have given her that ability. You can just sit at tryouts and watch the parents inter act with their kids and tell what kind of personality that girl will play with.

 

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If you force the young kid to hit her spots she will slow her arm down and blow any form she may be learning just to make that pitch. This won't matter to her 10U coach because he won the game and collected a trophy.

If throwing strikes is the most important thing to a coach, they will never develop a dominating pitcher. If the coach is harping on location, k's and avoiding walks the young pitchers will never progress it is that simple. She will pitch in fear trying not to make a mistake.

You have to define what this is all about. If you want your dd to be a successful high school pitcher and 4 year college pitcher then never make location or strikes the goal. They are the result of a lot of bad pitches. Focus on the making the process of continuing improvement, throwing each pitch harder, each break better, each batter an opportunity and she will still be in the circle as a 22 year old. Walks and bad pitches are part of her learning curve, get used to it.

 

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My favorite back then (sadly at 12u) was when my dd let the ball slip out of her hands during her motion and it sailed back toward 2nd base. Got that on film to!
There was a girl on 1st, stoled when that happened. If I had early coverage there at the bag it would of been a neat pick off,lol.
I will see if I can find that video somewhere and put it on here.

 

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Good grief, I was wrong. This was at 13u while with the NWO Lady Irish during fall ball up in Clinton Michigan. She starts off with a nice changeup on pitch one, then look what happens on pitch number 2.....................

http://youtu.be/SAQFxaH-kSQ

 

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Good grief, I was wrong. This was at 13u while with the NWO Lady Irish during fall ball up in Clinton Michigan. She starts off with a nice changeup on pitch one, then look what happens on pitch number 2.....................

http://youtu.be/SAQFxaH-kSQ

Hey, man, that first one was a good change up!