Pitching and Pitchers Discussion who gets the win?

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Scoring question here? Starting pitcher gives up the lead in the middle of the 6th and tleaves with score tied. Relief pitcher(A) comes in and closes door on 6th inning. Then relief pitchers team takes the lead in the top of the 7th. Relief pitcher begins 7th inning, but does not record and out and pitcher(B) comes in and closes out game. Here is break down of innings and how I scored it. Starting pitcher pitches 5innings leaves score tied. Relief A pitches 1 innnig/ starts the 7th with a lead but does not record and out and relief B throws 1 inning(7th) I have it that Relief A gets win because she was pitcher of record at start of 7th and then Relief B gets save?

Ok just curious if anyone has exact ruling on this.

Thanks
 
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At least in MLB:
WINNING AND LOSING PITCHER
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(4) The winning relief pitcher shall be the one who is the pitcher of record when his team assumes the lead and maintains it to the finish of the game. EXCEPTION: Do not credit a victory to a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when a succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain the lead. In such cases, credit the succeeding relief pitcher with the victory.

IMO, Relief pitcher A gets the win since her team gained the lead while she was in AND she pitched effectively (closed the door in the 6th).
 
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Thanks guys... yeah, I would not overule A getting the win and give it to relief B in this situation.... interesting that is an option though (atleast in MLB) be intersting to see if NCAA uses this same rule? I may have to look that up
 
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interesting that is an option though (atleast in MLB) be intersting to see if NCAA uses this same rule?

I agree. I'm not sure if the rule applies to NCAA, OHSAA, etc.

A hypothetical I can think of where this might be the case...top of 6, game is tied, runner on first, two outs. RP (A) takes the mound and throws a pitch for a strike. Catcher catches base runner stealing second...inning over. Home team takes the lead in the bottom of 6. RP (B) takes the mound in the top of 7 and successfully holds the lead. In my opinion, according to MLB at least, RP (B) gets the win.
 
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This is the current high school rule:


RULE 9. ART. 6 . . . Winning and losing pitchers are determined as
follows:

a. The starting pitcher is credited with a win in the following
circumstances:

1. When she pitches at least half of the innings in
the game and her team stays ahead for the remainder of the game.

2. When she pitches the required number of innings,
her team is ahead or tied when she is replaced, she re-enters the game with her
team behind, and her team subsequently recaptures the lead.

NOTE: A pitcher cannot receive credit for a
save if she receives the win.

b. The relief pitcher is credited with a win in the following
circumstances:

1. The starting pitcher did not pitch the required
number of innings, or her team fell behind.

2. The relief pitcher who pitches most effectively
after the starting pitcher did not pitch the required number of innings, more
than one relief pitcher was used and the lead was never lost.

3. The relief pitcher was the pitcher of record
when her team gained the lead and stayed in the lead.

4. A relief pitcher left the pitching position
while the score was tied or her team was behind, and she re-entered as the
pitcher and regained the lead.

c. If a pitcher is replaced by a pinch hitter or a pinch runner, the runs
scored by the team during the inning of removal are to be credited to that
pitcher's benefit for deciding the pitcher of record when the team takes the
lead.

d. A pitcher shall be charged with the loss when the team is behind or falls
behind because of runs assessed to that pitcher and the team does not
subsequently tie the score nor take the lead.

e. A pitcher cannot be given credit for pitching a shutout if the pitcher
does not pitch the complete game, unless the player enters the game with no one
out before the opponents have scored in the first inning and she does not permit
the opposition to score during the game.
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Link to Article Note Penalty Case Ruling Rule Comment Image Diagram Table Figure Exception

ART. 7 . . . In order for a pitcher to be credited with a
save, she shall meet all three of the following criteria:

a. she is the last pitcher in a game won by her team; and

b. she is not the winning pitcher; and

c. she meets at least one of the following:

1. she enters the game with a lead of not more than
three runs and pitches at least one inning; or

2. she enters the game, regardless of the count on
the batter, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck;
or

3. she pitches effectively for at least three
innings.

NOTE: A starting pitcher who is replaced
and then re-enters as pitcher can be credited with a win but not a save.
 
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This is the current high school rule:
b. The relief pitcher is credited with a win in the following
circumstances:

3. The relief pitcher was the pitcher of record
when her team gained the lead and stayed in the lead.

Ok. So as far as HS goes, there is no "effective" issue to consider, so in my hypothetical above, RP (A) would get the win even though she never retired a batter.
 
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Heres one that happened to my DD on Saturday she was pulled from the game in the bottom of the 6th inning with 0 outs and 1 runner on 1st with a 10 -7 lead. 2 other pitchers came in and got bombed and they lost 17 - 10 and the paper listed my DD as the losing pitcher. Talk about frustrating UGH!
 
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Heres one that happened to my DD on Saturday she was pulled from the game in the bottom of the 6th inning with 0 outs and 1 runner on 1st with a 10 -7 lead. 2 other pitchers came in and got bombed and they lost 17 - 10 and the paper listed my DD as the losing pitcher. Talk about frustrating UGH!

I'd talk to whoever sends info to paper......Of course if you lost, other team probably sent in & they actually didn't pay close enough attention....
 
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There are mistakes in the paper every day. It's more important that her coach gets it right.
 

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