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Eagleone, Did it start out something like this? ... "Okay Sparky, here's the deal, this is what "I" need .... " 
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You would have had to have been there to understand. Still not sure I understand where they were coming from and I was there.
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I know a few years ago when I was putting my team together for the first time, everyone wanted to know who was on the team, or who I had verbal commitments from before they would commit. I was constantly on the phone, like a used car salesman trying to sell my pitch, trying to get girls to commit. It was very frustrating to have several girls on the fence, and so many other girls waiting for calls one way or the other.
The bottom line, if you don't hear back right away, your not going to make it, or are on the bubble. Any coach that wants an athlete will chase them to the parking lot to get them committed, before they lose them.
The teams that have tryouts over several weekends, and keep you hanging on till all tryouts are over, is expecting to much!!! Once again, if they truly wanted you, they would get your commitment now, and not wait till the next set of tryouts. JMHO
The bottom line, if you don't hear back right away, your not going to make it, or are on the bubble. Any coach that wants an athlete will chase them to the parking lot to get them committed, before they lose them.
The teams that have tryouts over several weekends, and keep you hanging on till all tryouts are over, is expecting to much!!! Once again, if they truly wanted you, they would get your commitment now, and not wait till the next set of tryouts. JMHO
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We got an e-mail reply from one of the bigger org. that our dd did not make their team. That was fine with us and it was a quick response. I think a phone call may be better if there are not a ton of kids at your tryouts. Either way, it's nice if kids are not left wondering and waiting for more than a day or two.
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eagleone, did it start out something like this? ... "okay sparky, here's the deal, this is what "i" need .... "
lol!---good one pickledad
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LOL, believe it or not, that used to be me (not THAT bad though) ... much more humility these days, for sure though ..... multiple teenagers will do that to ya
..... multiple teenagers will do that to ya lol!---good one pickledad
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So LK, are you saying that if you don't get taken aside and told at the tryout that you've made the team, then---as the saying goes..."they're just not that into you"?
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ice ed, under 200? NEVER
anyways, nice post
to further the subject, and i'll go out on a limb a bit on my situation...but not too much, hopefully.....DD really only wanted to play in 2 places, but as things narrowed down it became apparent she wanted her first option (thankfully, we don't have to change team logos) but there was that feeling of she had friends on option 2, or that she was letting someone down, or that the oppurtunity was better somewhere else....the wait ended up being on both sides...coaches want their committments, and sometimes it comes down to position, playing time, and sometimes how others make them feel during a tryout--also, coaches if you have returning players coming back for tryouts, make sure they dont bash the new talent coming in (i guess thats the rub about community ball, eh?)
okay, i've said way too much...i feel the censor button coming on
anyways, nice post
to further the subject, and i'll go out on a limb a bit on my situation...but not too much, hopefully
.....DD really only wanted to play in 2 places, but as things narrowed down it became apparent she wanted her first option (thankfully, we don't have to change team logos) but there was that feeling of she had friends on option 2, or that she was letting someone down, or that the oppurtunity was better somewhere else....the wait ended up being on both sides...coaches want their committments, and sometimes it comes down to position, playing time, and sometimes how others make them feel during a tryout--also, coaches if you have returning players coming back for tryouts, make sure they dont bash the new talent coming in (i guess thats the rub about community ball, eh?)okay, i've said way too much...i feel the censor button coming on
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Sudden Death Softball always contacts every player who tries out for our teams. After each tryout, we will speak with each player & parent individually and give them a timeline when they should expect to be contacted.
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So LK, are you saying that if you don't get taken aside and told at the tryout that you've made the team, then---as the saying goes..."they're just not that into you"?
I was going to go into some long drawn out reply, but you pretty much nailed it.
This is not always the case, but if they are truly interested, you will hear pretty quickly, if not, they probably have some other girls in front of you the're trying to get first.
I'm going to start backpeddling now...
Another factor is how many come to the tryouts. If you have a huge turnout, and alot for the coaches to decipher, than I would imagine that 1-2 days would not be unthinkable.
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So i officially had 76 people sign up for tryouts for Classics 16u. I looked at 58 of them I would still be on the phone if it weren't for email. I used email for the ones we wanted and the ones we don't. (and there are still a few waiting for the responses from the ones we aksed). I told them all up front that itwould be that way.
- then there was this one time a few years ago. I had a tryout with about 4 or 5 pitchers. it was really a hot day and I let the parents take shade in the dugout. One of the mom's was busy encouraging her nervous daughter to stay for pitchers after she had a pretty tough tryout. She was neither skilled or athletic but a typical girl who all she really wanted to do was please her parents. The mom stayed in the dugout by herself and watched as I worked with her daughter and the other girls. She could quickly see that what she saw in her daughter was nothing compared to the girl buzzing 60 mph riseballs over the plate. I would ask the girls to throw their best pitch and in her case it was her only pitch. I let her complete the try out and walked with her to her mom as the other girls went to the other dugout to their parents. I noticed the glassy eyes in her mom's face and I could feel the girl gasp in her chest holding back her dissppointment. When I made eye contact with the mother a tear went down her cheek and she painfully smiled "that smile" and said thanx for taking the time with her. the mom had the girl's bat in one hand and the daughters hand in the other as they left the park. The trembling embrace that followed at the car made me think of all of those kind of times with my girls when they were little and big - learning lifes lessons...
I didn't call or email them and I think that was ok.
- then there was this one time a few years ago. I had a tryout with about 4 or 5 pitchers. it was really a hot day and I let the parents take shade in the dugout. One of the mom's was busy encouraging her nervous daughter to stay for pitchers after she had a pretty tough tryout. She was neither skilled or athletic but a typical girl who all she really wanted to do was please her parents. The mom stayed in the dugout by herself and watched as I worked with her daughter and the other girls. She could quickly see that what she saw in her daughter was nothing compared to the girl buzzing 60 mph riseballs over the plate. I would ask the girls to throw their best pitch and in her case it was her only pitch. I let her complete the try out and walked with her to her mom as the other girls went to the other dugout to their parents. I noticed the glassy eyes in her mom's face and I could feel the girl gasp in her chest holding back her dissppointment. When I made eye contact with the mother a tear went down her cheek and she painfully smiled "that smile" and said thanx for taking the time with her. the mom had the girl's bat in one hand and the daughters hand in the other as they left the park. The trembling embrace that followed at the car made me think of all of those kind of times with my girls when they were little and big - learning lifes lessons...
I didn't call or email them and I think that was ok.
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Every girl who attends an OUTCASTfastpitch try-out gets a promise, a promise they will be contacted one way or the other by a certain date. Some of these girls are nervous and scared to death but bust their buns in most cases and deserve nothing less. If they think they have a better offer and go with a team because we don't contact them earlier than what we tell everyone, that is fine and good luck to them. I think most of the girls can take a look around during the try-out and have a pretty good idea of what we are going to say when we contact them...
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Why does eveybody get so worked up about getting a rejection call? LK and katjoebenenmom said it best. If they want you, you'll get a call or offer pronto. If my kid tries out for a team, don't call me with a non-offer. I understand how things work and I wouldn't take it personal if I didn't get a call. Concentrate on the offers you do get and don't worry about the ones you don't get.
Also, what does your rejection call sound like.
Also, what does your rejection call sound like.
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Wow---very moving, very eloquent. Powerful stuff David. Gotta admit it made me well up a little *sniff*.
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Ringer, you know I love you buddy, but your response strikes me as about you and your ability to roll with the "non-call". Are you sure your DD is as good with it? I keep going back to when DD was 9 and the call never came that evening. She was a pretty resilient kid, but waiting for that call was a real struggle. (She wore 23 in those days and she shed quite a few tears in bed under her David Justice poster). I come down on the side of an email for either acceptances or rejections, but from Bear's comments I guess we'll be on the phone quite a bit beginning next Sunday evening.
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While I dread making the non-offer call, I do like the way it forces us to quantify why or why not a girl will be made an offer. If you have to prepare for the possible questions, then you tend to take better notes and really consider her positives and negatives. An email tends to be impersonal and may leave out the details of why a girl made or didn't make the team without giving the girl or the parents a chance to ask why.
Having said that, sometimes the answer is just "you were good, but someone else was better" or "if I had an opening at X you would have made the team, but I needed Y".
Having said that, sometimes the answer is just "you were good, but someone else was better" or "if I had an opening at X you would have made the team, but I needed Y".
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ringer, those phone calls come in on the house's red phone
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Those are valid points for both sides of the issue. I can understand not wanting to hear rejection, but it's more about common courtesy imo. I think organizations should let girls know if they aren't interested as soon as possible. Let those girls move on & remove any doubt that they are no longer in the running for a spot on the team. If you are interested in a player, but tryouts are still being held, let them know they are still in the running & when a final decision will be made. Email is quick & simple. It may be a little impersonal, but it's better than not acknowledging a girl who thought enough of your organization to come & try out. I know my dd went to tryouts last year where the thought was will call you if we want you & if you don't hear from us, we don't want you. Thankfully, neither of those 2 organizations was her #1 pick & she wasn't disappointed.
