My DD has been playing TB for 3 years and is in the 10th grade. Is it just me or does there seem to be a difference in teaching methods between the two? Why would a High School Coach want to teach/change a girls hitting method if it is successful and the girl is hitting homers and making great contact hitting the ball hard? The High School Coach seem to think their method is the best and if you want to play for me, you will hit the way I want you to is the attitude they seem to have. They may try to change other skills as well. If it "Ain't Broke" why would you want to "Fix" it? I am puzzzled by this coaching method as a parent. Am I missing something?? My DD hit 8 hr as an 8th grader and 11 including 2 Grand Slams as a freshman in TB. She hit 2 as a Freshman playing for the High School this year due to only 12 AB.
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Depends on a coach... Not every high school coach are like that. On the flip side I've seen girls who don't want to change because their parents tell them they have a great swing.
Not every batting average is indicative of how successful you will be at the next level. Her college coach may also try to change her swing when she gets there. Good luck
Not every batting average is indicative of how successful you will be at the next level. Her college coach may also try to change her swing when she gets there. Good luck
Poor high school coaches. They get drug through the mud. As a high school coach I see both sides of it. I have had kids who go to hitting lessons and hit .200 in high school. I have had kids that never went to an instructor and only hit during the season and hit.400. I personally don't care how you hit. If you close one eye,stand on 1 leg and hit 1 handed but hit .400, I'm good with it.
I do believe if you go to lessons and still don't hit you may need to change some things.
I do believe if you go to lessons and still don't hit you may need to change some things.
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As a tb asst. Coach and hs asst. Coach ,i hear all summer long how bad hs coaches are. And all hs season long , i hear how the travel coach does this or that. We at the hs have a very limited time to try and fix or teach. Our program at monroe hs is coached by several asst. Tb coaches. We help the kids who ask for help. But in the early going we poll the kids to see who has a hitting ,pitching,fielding instructor. Reach out to them . So we are not changing them but reinforcing what mom and dad are paying for. And in many cases in our program 90 % of our kids play tb, at different levels. And we talk and interact with their tb coaches as well . Communication is something we have learned through the last couple seasons there. And yes coaching in the summertime has made better coaches out of our staff. Were very fortunate to have so many girls playing tb. Parents i can say this communicate with the hs coaches, ask questions,and let the kids enjoy the short spring season. Sometimes scheme is different from tb to hs. You dont have to agree but change and different approaches to the game now may pay off when we hopefully send these kids off to college. Good luck to all. Go hornets and static 99!
WTF, when did it become March ??? i missed the offseason.
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Dang, I'm way behind on my TB payments......
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A big factor is the high school program. If the high school program is active throughout the year (like allowed in KY) and the coaches are working with the kids in the off season then it may make sense to take his advice because he has time to work with their swing. But if they start practicing in February ignore him its to late to change the swing anyhow it will just mess her up.
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HS coaches get 15 to 20 practices in before the first game of the season. If the HS coach knows his/her stuff, the kids will benefit greatly. If the HS coach does not know his/her stuff, the results could be detrimental.
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Communication. Talk to the high school coach and express your concerns in a respectable manner. Some will be grateful and some will just be typical douche canoes. Really no different than travelball. If the coach feels you are the idiot and he is right then you and your daughter have a choice. I do believe some girls are better off running track then spending everyday for 3 months reinforcing bad habits.
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6 days a week for 14 weeks x 2 hours a day = 168 hours of instruction. 168 hours of instruction - 56 hours (28 game days) = 112 hours of instruction. A ton of hours over a short period of time.
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Before the first game alone.....they also have practices during the season and believe it or not there are some good HS coaches. Also, there are TB daddyballer coaches that are lacking, so the same could be said concerning TB.
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If this is such a major concern why would anyone allow their kid to play for their high school team? I mean how long does it even last, 15 games or so? You're probably looking at around 40 at bats, give or take.
It sounds like you all already know that it's going to be more trouble than it's worth.
It sounds like you all already know that it's going to be more trouble than it's worth.
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So she has no room for improvement?
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If the player is a talent they should have NO issues playing High School ball and doing so regardless of the coach ability.
Playing HS ball should not impact in a bad way the players ability to be successful during summer ball or college.
Now in our league (GMC)it may be different than most but, for the most part the teams in the league do well with instruction and most of the top programs have parent led fall and winter activities. and the teams play as much as they can.
Over a two year period in 2012/2013 the varsity CARDS got in 56 regular season games, 12 winter games and 32 fall games. They also received a ton of practice time nad the instruction was as good if not better than most of their travel teams...
Most of your HS players are a reflection of your community league (we only had 3 TB players in those years yet competed very well in and out of the league). While a lot of work needed to be done with some of the ladies that only played rec. ball some of these ladies had skills equal or better than the travel players and I think you will find that on most HS teams.
All the coaches in the league seem to be in the know and have college connections with one exception. Some coaches that stand out are Oak Hills, Colerain, Fairfield, East, WEST, Mason.
If a parent feels HS ball hurts their DD just dont play. There is generally others looking for the opportunity more so at the bigger schools.
Playing HS ball should not impact in a bad way the players ability to be successful during summer ball or college.
Now in our league (GMC)it may be different than most but, for the most part the teams in the league do well with instruction and most of the top programs have parent led fall and winter activities. and the teams play as much as they can.
Over a two year period in 2012/2013 the varsity CARDS got in 56 regular season games, 12 winter games and 32 fall games. They also received a ton of practice time nad the instruction was as good if not better than most of their travel teams...
Most of your HS players are a reflection of your community league (we only had 3 TB players in those years yet competed very well in and out of the league). While a lot of work needed to be done with some of the ladies that only played rec. ball some of these ladies had skills equal or better than the travel players and I think you will find that on most HS teams.
All the coaches in the league seem to be in the know and have college connections with one exception. Some coaches that stand out are Oak Hills, Colerain, Fairfield, East, WEST, Mason.
If a parent feels HS ball hurts their DD just dont play. There is generally others looking for the opportunity more so at the bigger schools.
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HS ball is one of the better ways to prepare the DD for college (I can't believe I'm saying this myself
) from an adversity standpoint. You're a stud in TB, but in HS the coach sees you as a base runner only as a freshman. In TB, the girl plays SS because she's the best athelte on the team; but in HS is the RF because HS coach already has a junior SS that's first team (add conference). That will also happen in college. CARDS-56 games? I take it your not OHSAA sanctioned as they have a limit of 27 games minius the post-season and that may be 10 more games added.
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112 hours Sounds like a lot but how much is actually spent on individual instruction and is that short a period of time going to change 8 months of muscle memory?
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There are some very good HS coaches out there that actually know what they are doing. Not only in teaching the skills of the game, setting expectations,, goals, sense of team, community and other life lessons. They should know physical conditioning benefits as the teams that go far in the state tournament, better have conditioned athletes for the stamina if a run like that.. They go out and seek the higher quality out of district games to build their own team up either by winning or not, to show the girls what it takes to compete at the higher levels of the game. Those are the ones that care about the game and teaching the girls about bigger things in life.
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DD is a college freshman now, practicing 5 days a week-2 with the entire team, 2 with just pitchers/catchers, and 1 with her hitting group. Early days yet and she is 3 hours away so I have no idea if the college coach is going to "change" anything.
DD had a less than stellar high school career, was even cut her junior year. However, she rocked travel in the summers and I attribute her success to the coaching attitude. DD has always played much better when her coaches were clear about her playing time and followed through, challenged her to improve, and rewarded her successes with more play time. Realistically, there is a lot to be said about personality matches between players and coaches resulting in poor performance or stellar play.
Putting expectations all on the girl is not always the answer; how would you perform if a coach said to you: "stop trying so hard, you will only ever be a single base hitter at best"? That was DD's high school experience in a nut shell. She went off to summer ball and hit doubles and even a couple of triples; too bad she isn't a fast runner, those might have been home runs
Back to the point: use high school ball as practice if nothing else and take advantage of all learning opportunities. DD will run into those types of people throughout life, lessons learned now are to her advantage.
DD had a less than stellar high school career, was even cut her junior year. However, she rocked travel in the summers and I attribute her success to the coaching attitude. DD has always played much better when her coaches were clear about her playing time and followed through, challenged her to improve, and rewarded her successes with more play time. Realistically, there is a lot to be said about personality matches between players and coaches resulting in poor performance or stellar play.
Putting expectations all on the girl is not always the answer; how would you perform if a coach said to you: "stop trying so hard, you will only ever be a single base hitter at best"? That was DD's high school experience in a nut shell. She went off to summer ball and hit doubles and even a couple of triples; too bad she isn't a fast runner, those might have been home runs
Back to the point: use high school ball as practice if nothing else and take advantage of all learning opportunities. DD will run into those types of people throughout life, lessons learned now are to her advantage.
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