Cincinnati ASA

default · Jan 11, 2010

Please see below letter sent regarding Cincinnati JO ASA.

Thanks
Michelle Fletcher

Holiday greetings from the Amateur Softball Association.

Please allow me to introduce myself, my name is Dan Saylor and I have had the privilege of being the ASA Commissioner in Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky and SE Indiana for the past 26 years. I keep an active and open office based out of Rumpke Ball Park.

Part of my duties as commissioner is to appoint local deputies, umpire in chiefs, player reps and in this recent case, the Junior Olympic Commissioner post. As many of you are familiar, Patty Amrein occupied this position for the past 20 years. Due to numerous events, Patty is no longer affiliated in any way with the local or national ASA program.

We are currently seeking a new approach to how we view our J.O. fast pitch youth and adult programs. We are in the process of establishing a panel, consisting of coaches, league representatives, and player representatives to assist and advise our local J.O. Commissioner.

I would like to introduce Michelle Fletcher, mother, coach, and umpire, as our new interim J.O. Commissioner. She would like to get the new year started by setting a coaches? meeting date of Saturday January 23, 2010 at 3:00 at Panera Bread Tri County?s meeting room. If you have any questions or concerns before this meeting, you can contact Michelle at 513-382-5674 or via email at cincyasa@yahoo.com. She is also working on getting some tournament dates in place for the Cincinnati Metro and other qualifiers.

As I stated earlier, if you or anyone you know is interested in getting involved with our program, please contact Michelle or myself.

We hope you had a wonderful holiday season and are chomping at the bit to get everything organized and ready to play ball.

Sincerely,

Dan Saylor

default · Jan 13, 2010

The Region 9 16U and 18U USA/ASA National Qualifiers will held in Cincinnati.

18-u on June 11-12-13
at Mid-American Ballyard Cincinnati, Ohio
entry fee $375
4 game guarantee
paid birth with minimum 16 teams registered.

16-u on July 10-11-12
at Rumpke Park Cincinnati, Ohio
entry fee $375
4 game guarantee
paid birth with minimum 16 teams registered.

Contact info for both is cincyasa@yahoo.com

default · Jan 13, 2010

Thanks Michelle, glad to see someone working this for us now.

default · Jan 13, 2010

isnt that the same weekend as stingrays

default · Jan 13, 2010

OK, I am a little confused here on 18U ASA/USA qualifiers. I thought 18U ASA States was being held in the Cincy area on June 11/12/13. What has happened to that tournament?

default · Jan 14, 2010

ram said:
OK, I am a little confused here on 18U ASA/USA qualifiers. I thought 18U ASA States was being held in the Cincy area on June 11/12/13. What has happened to that tournament?

I'm confused as well. Isn't Cincinnati area, N KY and Indiana in Region 10 instead of Region 9 ?

Why would a Region 9 event be played in Region 10 ?

What happened to the State 18u tournament?

Why mess the teams up and match anything up with the Stingrays event?

Going to be a long road this year....

default · Jan 14, 2010

Justawondering said:
I'm confused as well. Isn't Cincinnati area, N KY and Indiana in Region 10 instead of Region 9 ?

Why would a Region 9 event be played in Region 10 ?

What happened to the State 18u tournament?

Why mess the teams up and match anything up with the Stingrays event?

Going to be a long road this year....

Cincy has been aligned in the OHIO region. Changed this year...

default · Jan 14, 2010

State tournament is different event from the Region 9 qualifier. Both are ways to qualify for ASA/USA.

default · Jan 22, 2010

I had heard that the Cincy Metro qualifier tournaments for ASA/USA is closed; that is, only Cincy Metro teams can play in it. Anyone who can confirm that?

default · Jan 22, 2010

That's the way I heard it also.

default · Jan 23, 2010

Cincinnati ASA Metro and the berths have always been for teams registered in that Association.

That is the way it has always been, is there a reason it should have changed?

The tournament published in this thread as the Region 9 ASA NQ is open to all teams from ASA Region 9, which consists of the following Local Associations, ASA State of Ohio Assoc, ASA Cleveland Metro Assoc, ASA Dayton Metro Assoc, and, as of 2010 ASA Cincinnati Metro Assoc.

I sense a great deal of confusion among some?

Perhaps this will help, the 4 Local Associations mentioned above as a GROUP make up ASA Region #9 the Mid East Region, Region #9 while it geographically contains the entire State of Ohio, is made up of 4 independent ASA Local Associations, the ASA State of Ohio Local Association is the counties in the State of Ohio NOT occupied by the Metro Associations.

In Illinois there are 2 Associations which are part of Region 10, the ASA Chicago Metro and the ASA State of Illinois.

Each local Association based upon teams registered is awarded berths, those berths by code belong to the teams registered by that Association, in addition there are berths that are assigned to each Region, each Association determines their procedure for awarding berths, ASA Cincinnati Metro has for many years held a Metro Torunament for teams interested in attending the ASA/USA Nationals Championships.

The metro and region 9 are seperate entities and the tnmt for these berths are seperate events.

default · Jan 23, 2010

CincyStorm said:
Cincinnati ASA Metro and the berths have always been for teams registered in that Association.

That is the way it has always been, is there a reason it should have changed?

The tournament published in this thread as the Region 9 ASA NQ is open to all teams from ASA Region 9, which consists of the following Local Associations, ASA State of Ohio Assoc, ASA Cleveland Metro Assoc, ASA Dayton Metro Assoc, and, as of 2010 ASA Cincinnati Metro Assoc.

I sense a great deal of confusion among some?

Perhaps this will help, the 4 Local Associations mentioned above as a GROUP make up ASA Region #9 the Mid East Region, Region #9 while it geographically contains the entire State of Ohio, is made up of 4 independent ASA Local Associations, the ASA State of Ohio Local Association is the counties in the State of Ohio NOT occupied by the Metro Associations.

In Illinois there are 2 Associations which are part of Region 10, the ASA Chicago Metro and the ASA State of Illinois.

Each local Association based upon teams registered is awarded berths, those berths by code belong to the teams registered by that Association, in addition there are berths that are assigned to each Region, each Association determines their procedure for awarding berths, ASA Cincinnati Metro has for many years held a Metro Torunament for teams interested in attending the ASA/USA Nationals Championships.

The metro and region 9 are seperate entities and the tnmt for these berths are seperate events.

Just to add...A National Qualifier is open to ANY ASA registered team (from anywhere in the USA). There is only one NQ per region.

default · Jan 23, 2010

wv

That would be an "open" ASA NQ, the events mentioned in the above posting are the Region 9 ASA NQ's.

Each region is assigned 1 "open" berth and 2 "regional" berths, by code the regional berths are awarded at an event open only to teams from that region, and the open berth is awarded to the winning team (or highest placing team that has not already earned a berth), and is open to ANY ASA registered team nationally.

From the posting it is unclear whether these events are "open" NQ's or Region 9 NQ's, I will defer to you if you know that they are "open" NQ's.

I was under the impression that the "open" NQ's were being held up north in June, I think Wolfpack had posted them?

Thank you for the opportunity at clarification.

default · Jan 23, 2010

Ok, Here's the scoop.

Region 9 now includes Metro Cincinnati.

There are a few ways for team to qualify for the USA/ASA Nationals.

1. Regional Qualifiers
2. The State Qualifier or Metro depending on where you registered.
3. National qualifiers that are open to everyone.

The Cincinnati Metro is for Cincinnati teams only.

The Region 9 qualifiers are for any team in the state.

Unfortunately there are always conflicts in scheduling tournaments that can't be helped.

default · Jan 23, 2010

CincyASA said:
Ok, Here's the scoop.

Region 9 now includes Metro Cincinnati.

There are a few ways for team to qualify for the USA/ASA Nationals.

1. Regional Qualifiers
2. The State Qualifier or Metro depending on where you registered.
3. National qualifiers that are open to everyone.

The Cincinnati Metro is for Cincinnati teams only.

The Region 9 qualifiers are for any team in the state.

Unfortunately there are always conflicts in scheduling tournaments that can't be helped.

How far outside of Cinci is considerd a cincy team....... is there a mile limit. how does that work

default · Jan 23, 2010

Hey BD, I used to have an e-mail that explained it but couldn't find it, I believe it has something to do with bordering Hamilton County.

default · Jan 23, 2010

k Thanks........ never worried about anything like this before.playing more local starting to discover things I diddnt know lol

default · Jan 27, 2010

Well, all I know is that the Dayton and Cleveland Metro Associations have made their berths available to other members of Region 9. That's directly from the Ohio Commissioner. If Cincinnati wants to make their berth available only to Cincinnati teams, I understand that they have the prerogative to do that. If I am wrong that Dayton and Cleveland can and have chosen to make the berths available to other Region 9 members, please post here. That would affect our present schedule.

I'm frankly getting tired of spending so much time (as in nearly 10 years now) on the qualification issue. And I find it interesting that upon joining Region 9, the Cincy Metro Association is the only Region 9 Metro Association that is restricting its berth to its Metro Association. Kudos to the other Metro associations for making their tournaments and berths more accessible. But at the risk of offending Cincy teams that we count as friends, why should the Dayton and Cleveland Metro Associations make their berths available to Cincy teams when Cincy Metro has decided to close its berths?

default · Jan 27, 2010

ohioquakerman said:
Goshen is in Clermont County and actually outside of Metro Cincinnati.

I was asked to host the event by Michelle until she can get her feet under her with the Cincy Metro being it was just given to her and get ballparks, etc...

I like her actually and a good fit for Cincy. But, you can always ask her that yourself cgs. Her address is in the first post.

I asked and was told Cincy teams only. She might not know the other Metro areas opened up their events. I didn't mention it to her personally.

Tim, Does that mean an ASA Team registered with location =" GOSHEN" should not be attending the Cincy Metro ASA Qualifier because they are outside of Cincy Metro as the park/host is, per your statement above?

default · Jan 28, 2010

QM & TT, Clermont County is part of the Cincy Metro Association.

CGS, maybe the other associations opened it up because more teams = more money?

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