SLuGGerFest Refunds?????

default · Jun 16, 2010

Went down to Beavercreek on June 5-6 and only got in one game. Received a check in the mail today from TD Bob Darden with an 80% refund. Walking Tacos and a TD that is truly in it for the girls!! Would recommend a tourney ran by Bob anytime!! Thanks Bob from the Buckeye Heat!!

default · Jun 16, 2010

mustohiofastpitch said:
Since pool play was completed there should be winners but not with Patty. She said she will not have any winners and will take the engraved plate off the trophies and use them next year.

default · Jun 17, 2010

Our team is supposed to play in Sluggerfest next weekend, and I am already afraid.

If the advertised water coolers aren't in the dugouts for the girls, I promise to do the war dance...

default · Jun 17, 2010

coach McQueen said:
unless you actually coach a team and had to deal with this I am not sure how a person could even have an qualified opinion

Well said Coach!!

default · Jun 17, 2010

clydesdale1 said:
You could definitely tell the fields had gone down hill since Patty left.
It was nice of her to come back and keep Sluggerfest going so Rivershore had 1 tournament this spring since nothing was done to get other tournaments scheduled there.

When Patty was there, Rivershore had a full tournament schedule and the fields were in great shape. Rain delays were a lot shorter and the fields bounced back nicer and work was completed quickily. The 2 1/2 hour delay on Friday after not even 5 minutes of rain was a little crazy.

She owns Sluggerfest and she rents out Rivershore. On Friday, June 11th, 12u games were scheduled on the 2 lower fields. Two teams showed up for their 9:00 am game start to find the fields not ready. Patty and crew forgot to get them ready and the game was delayed an hour while they did. Your tournament, the first day, the first games that you scheduled and you forget to get one of your fields ready? How poor is that?

Years past the fields have never been in great shape. On year we had a delay because Patty and crew showed up same time as the teams to get fields ready but the tractor wouldn't start. She says it does that all the time but she has no back up so we wait hours while they get parts to fix tractor. We have had rain delays, from a rain days earlier because nobody worked the fields the until right before the games start.

With the start of the tournament rating system this one won't be around long.

default · Jun 17, 2010

LADY_KNIGHTS said:
Went down to Beavercreek on June 5-6 and only got in one game. Received a check in the mail today from TD Bob Darden with an 80% refund. Walking Tacos and a TD that is truly in it for the girls!! Would recommend a tourney ran by Bob anytime!! Thanks Bob from the Buckeye Heat!!

80% refund and still played a game. That sounds more than fair. Were gate fees charged?

default · Jun 17, 2010

no gate fees at Beavercreek!!! We are fortunate in the arrangements we have---bot if we should evr have to rent a complex like EXpressway or Riverstar, etc, then you'd have to have a gate to help keep the team costs down--it takes huge amounts of money for upkeep alone---e.g. a set of good bases clocks in at $150 to $200 and think of grass mowing costs.

Don't intend to ever have gate fees unless we have a National and I won't be doing that-- I have ran one national event at the Kettering Fields Complex in Dayton but that is too much work to ever do again.

bob

default · Jun 20, 2010

Tourn_Director said:
no gate fees at Beavercreek!!! We are fortunate in the arrangements we have---bot if we should evr have to rent a complex like EXpressway or Riverstar, etc, then you'd have to have a gate to help keep the team costs down--it takes huge amounts of money for upkeep alone---e.g. a set of good bases clocks in at $150 to $200 and think of grass mowing costs.

Don't intend to ever have gate fees unless we have a National and I won't be doing that-- I have ran one national event at the Kettering Fields Complex in Dayton but that is too much work to ever do again.

bob

Nice to be able to have free fields, free use of the equipment that is owned by the taxpayers as well

and be the Township Trustee to boot :lmao:

Never put on turface to dry the fields and cancel events when fields are not even touched.

Make a boatload of money that way and still give out good refunds.

default · Jun 20, 2010

Well, justawondering, I would go straight to the "people in glass houses" comment.

I have had experiences - both rainy and not rainy - at Beavercreek and with Bob's tournaments. When the weather works - it is a great tournament. When it doesn't, the refunds are prompt and fair. Maybe it is true that there are not superhuman efforts to work on the fields, but the one tournament we were rained out, not even ohioquakerman's helicopter squad could have salvaged.

If he has connections that allow him to get use of those fields and promote youth events - good for him. That is the government giving back to the people. In terms of making "boatloads" of money, I doubt it. The Beavercreek tournaments are some of the lowest entry fees around, and there really are fixed costs that go into staging a tournament - even if it does not happen.

If Bob has a boat, it is probably a rowboat, and I doubt he can afford oars.

And by the way, I don't really know Bob personally - these are my observations from staging teams into two or three tournaments over the past two or three years.

default · Jun 20, 2010

firststrike said:
I will not go into any great detail about slapper 21.
But this man has done more for girls this year than most do in a life time.
His efforts to help girls and families extends far beyond our team to girls who play on other travel and school teams.
He has been very gracious wth his time and money and always wishes to remain anominous and keep his efforts focused on players.
He has set an example for all that know him personaly of how to get things done.
He curently is working on a project that could possibly be a helping hand to all players in southern ohio.
To challenge this mans motivatiom is a definate mistake.
LEAD , FOLLOW , but do it for the girls.
Quite frankly i am not concerned about getting a refund , but i will always back slapper 21.
I was more dissapointed with the field conditions than any thing.
Weeds you could loose a ball in ,against the back stop , giant holes in the infield. areas that looked like they had just been plowed, home plates that looked to be a foot higher than the pitchers rubber, no marked batters box or runners lane.
Sluggerfest was not a good choice for us. Rain or shine refund or not the only good thing about this tournament was the players themselves.
Randy Allen

I think this is great Slapper. I think sometimes people take things out of context on here. We should be doing it for the girls first and wahtever project your working on for Southern Ohio I cant wait to see/hear what it is. Doesnt feel good when folks dont know you question your motivations....and slapper took it like a cool customer.

default · Jun 20, 2010

Justawondering

The fields are not free--we pay for them. The equipment does not belong to the taxpayers--it belongs to the Beavercreek Youth Softball Association--evrything from bases to home plates to tractors to turface. And I am not A township Trustee. I am the chairman of the Beavercreek Township Park District Board--that is a volunteer position appointed by the Common Pleas Court.

I am smart enough to know when to work the diamonds and add turface-- I know the fields and I know under certain conditions that all the turface in the state of Ohio wouldn't work.

The event was sponsored by the Youth softball Association and all my time and efforts were volunteered.

So--you know nothing and have been exposed as a no-good person trying to stir up controversy---I think all your future posts will be considered lacking in credibility.

bob

default · Jun 20, 2010

Just one more explanation for all,

The Park District is a separate political entity from the Township Trustees. The township Trustees own Rotary Park and the Trustees have the City Of Beavercreek manage the park for them. The Park District has nothing to do with the operations of Rotary Park. If you want to know more about Park Districts, google park districts and Ohio Revised Code.

bob

default · Jun 20, 2010

Curious did you get a refund or not?

Well said everyone!

default · Jun 26, 2010

coach McQueen said:
A refund are you kidding!!!!!!!!!

There will be no refunds

Oh your Majesty the Queen....I hear it is $60 bucks Mr. No Way!

You and your Buddy are too funny!

You have the tree and he has the rope! :lmao:

Right said Coach!

default · Jun 26, 2010

I just want to say I think Bob does a great job at Beavercreek, it is one of my favorite places to play at.

default · Jun 26, 2010

Even if the refund is $60, that is less than a 20% refund for playing two games for the entire tournament. Whoever is running Rivershore needs to fix the fields also; they were horrible.

Len

default · Jun 27, 2010

Lenski said:
Even if the refund is $60, that is less than a 20% refund for playing two games for the entire tournament. Whoever is running Rivershore needs to fix the fields also; they were horrible.

Len

Len I agree the place needs fixing up for sure!

She does not run it anymore....I felt your Bud's where quick to lynch her before she had a chance to respond and you are smart enough to know that.

Our Son played at Past Time years ago and very little has changed as to being a dust bowl. Yet like River Shore they keep coming back.

So for the ones that listen to customer feed back and run a good tournament may even get more business and I would hope they do as they seem to do a better job.

Some of these people never learn and keep complaining about the same old stuff and history repeats itself.

For people that think it is easy to do...rent a place and do it your self. :lmao:

It is funny to see 3,000 hits on Slugger Feast and 140 hits on ACL injuries and prevention. They could reduce their daughters chances of injuries by 41% by reading about it and yet like a car wreck they look to see who is being trashed and over look what they could do to prevent it.

Kind of like buying a new bat to improve their hitting technique.

default · Jun 27, 2010

FrontRow said:
I just want to say I think Bob does a great job at Beavercreek, it is one of my favorite places to play at.

I could not agree with you more. Bob has always done a great job and they work thier tails off to get things playable as soon as it is possible. We have not played there for a few years because our schedule has taken us away from USSSA but we always appreciated Bob's hard work and willingness to do the right thing when it comes to getting games in.

As for Rivershore. it is what it is and everyone knows it. The only way to keep from having a bad experience there is to not go.

default · Jun 27, 2010

Hitter said:
Oh your Majesty the Queen....I hear it is $60 bucks Mr. No Way!

You and your Buddy are too funny!

You have the tree and he has the rope! :lmao:

Right said Coach!

Listen Mr CUT AND PASTE..........
I coached a team in that tournament years ago where we played 2/3rds of an Inning of one game.
We got 70.00 off next years entry that we could not use.

So unlike some I have history with this situatuion

default · Jun 28, 2010

coach McQueen said:
A refund are you kidding!!!!!!!!!

There will be no refunds

Your statement.....see above.

Per my sources it is $60....can you say no way!

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