Disputing a call...has it every worked for you?

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That is exactly what I am saying! These two incidents were just a sample of what happened over the weekend. It was our final game and we were getting hosed all weekend. I am a patient person and almost never argue with blue (never gets you any where). The bias was so blatant that my players were even getting upset at how obvious it was. I realize that it sounds extreme and admittedly it was a little, but when your players are no longer in control of their own fate and the rains were about to start it seemed like the right thing to do.

We awarded our MVP to the other team, packed our stuff and dodged the rain drops to the car.
 
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That is exactly what I am saying! These two incidents were just a sample of what happened over the weekend. It was our final game and we were getting hosed all weekend. I am a patient person and almost never argue with blue (never gets you any where). The bias was so blatant that my players were even getting upset at how obvious it was. I realize that it sounds extreme and admittedly it was a little, but when your players are no longer in control of their own fate and the rains were about to start it seemed like the right thing to do.

We awarded our MVP to the other team, packed our stuff and dodged the rain drops to the car.

I assume this was in response to my question whether you left the tourney without completing your game(s). It does sound extreme to me. And I'm not sure that it teaches the right thing to your players. I interpret your comments as believing that the umpires cheated against your team and I guess if there were ever a reason to pack up and leave, it would be that the umpires were in fact fixing the game. But how can you be sure they weren't just bad umpires? More important, how can your players be expected to make the "he's cheating us" v. "he doesn't know what he is doing" call in future situations? It has been my experience that players love to blame losses or subpar individual performances on Blue when in fact the calls weren't all that bad. The end result is that the players don't take responsibility for their play nor do they analyze what they could have done differently. JMHO.
 
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I assume this was in response to my question whether you left the tourney without completing your game(s). It does sound extreme to me. And I'm not sure that it teaches the right thing to your players. I interpret your comments as believing that the umpires cheated against your team and I guess if there were ever a reason to pack up and leave, it would be that the umpires were in fact fixing the game. But how can you be sure they weren't just bad umpires? More important, how can your players be expected to make the "he's cheating us" v. "he doesn't know what he is doing" call in future situations? It has been my experience that players love to blame losses or subpar individual performances on Blue when in fact the calls weren't all that bad. The end result is that the players don't take responsibility for their play nor do they analyze what they could have done differently. JMHO.

Good call CGS. IMHO the ONLY justification for leaving a game before completion is when remaining jeopardizes the teams safety. Otherwise, you are sending the wrong message, even if the umpires are "clearly" biased for the other team.
 
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There is a lot more to the story and no where near enough time or space to put it all out there. Rest assured my players got the proper message out of the weekend. This was a great opportunity to show my girls why you never let blue decide the game for you, you have total control of the game if you decide to and perform to your ability. They let blue beat them and were no longer performing to their ability. I have only thrown in the towel once, way back at 12u when we lost 5 players to heat while playing our 7th game of the day on Sunday( we even dressed two 10u players and put them in the outfield to keep playing). Even then I left it up to the girls and they had no more to give.

This may make it a little clearer:
final game of the weekend (7 of 7)
played short (8) all day Saturday (3 games back-to-back), 9 on Fri. & Sun.
only 15 minutes left to play
the rain had started and blue just stopped play due to lightening
radar was showing at least 2-3 hours of heavy rain
my girls had given up during the 1st game committing 9 errors on simple plays (serious lecture ensued)

As I said, it was the last straw. There were many other straws that lead to this decision and I stand by that it was the correct decision having knowledge of all the details.
 
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As you say, only you have full knowledge of all the details. As originally posted, it looked as though the primary if not only reason for packing up was your perception that the umps were biased. Given your last post, it looks like there was a lot of other stuff going on and that you have taken steps to let the players know they could have removed any Blue bias from the equation if they had played better. I might not have made the same decision to leave but who knows . . . as the old saying goes, "you had to be there".
 
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