Hourly rates for softball instruction?!

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This year have seen people charging as much as $100.00 for just over an hour of instruction. Here is an article about jobs that pay over $100.00 per hour. Seems kinda silly IMO. http://www.cnbc.com/id/40573590#.

1)Doctor
2)CEO of a large company
3)Stock Broker


4)Fastpitch instructor?!
 

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I'd LOVE to know what you get for $100 an hour.... my kid better be pitching 85, hitting 300ft bombs and turning 6-4-3's by herself if I shell out that kind of money.

Seriously, someone please elaborate on $100 an hour fastpitch lessons. Very curious.
 

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This was also much more then they charged last year, because they do not sell out in our area and need to fly 4 people in. It is rather steep.
 

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yeah still seems pricey for a 1 hour camp session though.... especially when your sharing it with 10 other girls.
 

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We have been to it, and I would pay that again. She is very good at what she does.
 

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We have been to it, and I would pay that again. She is very good at what she does.

That would be key. I wouldn't blindly pay that but I guess if I had people I trusted telling me it's worth the spend it would be a different story.
 

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There are a lot of "inequities" in pay rates in our society. Look at how little teachers make, and how much professional athletes make. The only point I want to make is that one has to be a little careful in looking at these rates. Things to consider are if the coach is having to pay for access to an indoor facility ... as most of us know, these can be pretty expensive. Another is if they have to travel to the lesson ... my daughter has driven up to an hour one way to give one pitching lesson ... so the total time committed was more like 3 hours vs. 1, not to mention the gas money.
 

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There are a lot of "inequities" in pay rates in our society. Look at how little teachers make, and how much professional athletes make. The only point I want to make is that one has to be a little careful in looking at these rates. Things to consider are if the coach is having to pay for access to an indoor facility ... as most of us know, these can be pretty expensive. Another is if they have to travel to the lesson ... my daughter has driven up to an hour one way to give one pitching lesson ... so the total time committed was more like 3 hours vs. 1, not to mention the gas money.
Very true. I can tell you theat Jenns weekly students at her home workshop pay much less then $100 hr. They flew to KY from CA for this clinic and need to be paid more then normal.
 

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In 2010, the average Doctor made $80.00 per hour! These guys charge more than a Doctor and people actually pay it with dreams of a Division I full ride to UCLA.
http://work.chron.com/average-doctor-paid-per-hour-3154.html

It's simple supply and demand. If you think it's too much, DON'T PAY IT! If someone else chooses to pay it, it's their business, not yours. Only they, not you, can make a value judgment for themselves or their daughter. Your opinion of the price they choose to pay for something is irrelevant.
 

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It's simple supply and demand. If you think it's too much, DON'T PAY IT! If someone else chooses to pay it, it's their business, not yours. Only they, not you, can make a value judgment for themselves or their daughter. Your opinion of the price they choose to pay for something is irrelevant.

It has nothing to do with supply and demand. There is plenty of supply. Are you going to tell me you can't find an instructor? The problem is that people pay it. Opinions do matter because until people decide to NOT pay $100.00 per hour, the rates will rise. Also, value is subjective. But value can be misleading if Mom and Dad think they can buy a scholarship through these instructors.

Here, read this- http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp
 
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While there are certainly parents who may be thinking they are "buying scholarships", I don't think that is the case as much as some people think.

My daughter pitched and played competitive slowpitch up through when she was 12, and absolutely love the experience as did I. (Her team finished 5th at the ASA A slowpitch nationals in Georgia when she was 12). When she knew she was switching over to fastpitch, she told me she wanted to keep playing travel ball and be a pitcher there too even though she had never thrown a fast pitch in her life. So I went out and found an instructor who was recommended and paid the price he asked. He was a little higher than what some of her friends' parents were paying, but I was convinced he was better so, yes, supply and demand. Why was I willing to pay it ... because my little girl wanted to try it. After she got started and enjoyed it, she then declared she wanted to be the best high school pitcher she could be. After she had some success at ages 14-15 and started pitching in high school, she got some encouragement that she could probably pitch in college some day and maybe even get an athletic scholarship, so that was nice to hear but what really drove her was her desire to be the best high school pitcher she could be, and to get her and her team some success and recognition.

At some point in time, we felt it was important that she took her pitching instruction to the next level, and so she started going to Hillhouse. Granted, he was a lot less expensive then, but he helped take her to the next level. She knew when she was 15-16 that she wasn't ever going to be good enough to be D1 college pitcher, nor did she have any interest in going to a big college anyhow, but she still had the goal to one day pitch in college. When it finally came time to make her college decision, she had narrowed her choice down to one D2 school where she would receive some athletic moneys, and one D3 school where she obviously would not. Of course, I left the decision to her and she ultimately chose the D3 school where she both got a great education, and she also had a very nice softball career where she not only became the winningest pitcher in school history, but she also was a team captain and got to bat every game and play outfield when she wasn't pitching.

The point is this ... I spent a ton of money at fairly premium rates for a lot of years not so that she could get a scholarship, but so she had a chance to live her dreams of playing travel softball in the summer, being a very good high school pitcher, and playing in college. These are memories that both she and I will always have and looking back, I would have paid 5 times what I paid for those lessons if I had known it would have resulted in what it did ... and no, not even a dime in athletic scholarship money.
 
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That's great Coach Jwb! I think my point is that I'm not saying don't go to an instructor. I'm saying they are charging more than people with PHD's medical degrees etc. That I think is absurd. Lets look at it as a career. At 7 hours a day 80 bucks an hour 22 work days a month, you are around $147,000 a year salary. That's about what a Doctor makes at a general practice. Screw college! :)
 

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It has nothing to do with supply and demand. There is plenty of supply. Are you going to tell me you can't find an instructor? The problem is that people pay it. Opinions do matter because until people decide to NOT pay $100.00 per hour, the rates will rise. Also, value is subjective. But value can be misleading if Mom and Dad think they can buy a scholarship through these instructors.

Here, read this- http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp

Good luch finding a instructor like Jenn Schro in Ohio!
 

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well what is the limit then? Jenn Schro should charge $200.00 per hour. Why not, people would pay it. What about $250.00 per hour? Where is the line?
 

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