Ferrigno20
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The line is where people stop paying it. Are you saying this is not a good business model?
Hourly rates for softball instruction?!
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The line is where people stop paying it. Are you saying this is not a good business model?
coachjwb
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Apogee ... OK, but let me just change the facts on you a little to ones that I think are a little more representative ... and we'll even use your $80/hour. Of course, pitching lesson students aren't available 7 hours a day since they go to school and their parents have jobs. If a pitching coach has a full schedule, it might be best case 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. I only know one pitching coach who has a fuller schedule than this. OK, then let's assume you have at least 2 last minute cancellations a week which is pretty conservative. And also let's assume that the facility you're working out of either charges you $50/hour or if you're renting it yourself, that it costs that much (and I have a couple of points of reference on this that validate this as being realistic). Now we're talking about $27K/year instead of $147K. Is it a nice supplemental income for someone? Sure! Are you going to get rich doing it, or is it anything even remotely close to what a doctor makes? No way!
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Ferrigno20
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100% facts!
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jENN IS ONE THAT THIS IS HEAR JOB. bETWEEN TRAVEL CAMPS, HER WORKSHOP AT HOME AND HER WEBSITE ALSO WORK WITH DICKS SPORTING GOODS. THIS IS HOW SHE MAKES A LIVING. MAYBE PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU ARE OVER PAID
ApogeeDemon
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Hey, spending your money how you want is your choice. But while you have your wallet out, I have some swamp land in Florida I'd love for you to take a look at!
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Her students results speak for themselves. She puts kids in school period point blank. She is the #1 go to in southern cali
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And as long as they're paying $80, $100, or whatever per hour it is that you don't think they should WITH THEIR OWN MONEY, it's none of your business.
wow
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One thing to consider is what level of play the person teaching you has. High school, D1, Team USA? The higher the level of play the more I would expect to pay. I have sent my DD's to three separate former D1 players and the rates were between 60-90$ and hour. Some for batting, some for pitching. I think you have to expect to get what you pay for and not just jump to the higher end of the pay scale. When they first started I paid a high school kid $20 for pitching lessons and that was what we did for the first two years. Then as they got older we had to reach a little further. It all boils down to what level of instruction you are looking for..... I am a firm believer in one on one coaching with a NON parent instructor.... Not that the instructor cant be a parent just a parent being the only one who works with the kids outside team practices.
ApogeeDemon
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Oh sure, you don't have the right to an opinion! Are you the backstopnazi?
Thumbs down!
ApogeeDemon
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She is the #1 go to in southern cali. Prove it. That's an opinion.
The $80/hr average looks highly suspect given every other salary shown is higher than that.
You're still confusing what they charge with what they make. Instructors have overhead (rent) and/or expenses (gas), so they don't "make" as much as they charge. The charges for doctors are also much higher than what they make.That's great Coach Jwb! I think my point is that I'm not saying don't go to an instructor. I'm saying they are charging more than people with PHD's medical degrees etc. That I think is absurd. Lets look at it as a career. At 7 hours a day 80 bucks an hour 22 work days a month, you are around $147,000 a year salary. That's about what a Doctor makes at a general practice. Screw college!
Doctors also recieve benefits that raise their total compensation, whereas instructors generally don't.
I don't know of any instructors that give 7 hours of 1-on-1 lessons a day for 5 days a week. Like most businesses, it takes quite a while to build a clientele where it can be the sole/primary source of income.
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Hillhouse charges $100/hr. He has a waiting list for lessons at each of his "local" weekly sites. He pays rent for the lane he uses. It is his full time job. He is never home evenings or weekends. On the weekends, pretty much every weekend, he is flying some where across the country, sometimes internationally, to do a clinic or monthly lessons. He can get the price he is asking because he has played at the highest men's level. Both Men's Team USA, and professional internationally. His price is worth it to our family because he relates and interacts with our daughter in such a manner that she refuses to consider going elsewhere.
Everyone values different things differently. A person who pays $1000 for a golf club, in my opinion, has lost his mind. I hate golf. However, that person who loves golf might feel it is worth every penny.
Everyone values different things differently. A person who pays $1000 for a golf club, in my opinion, has lost his mind. I hate golf. However, that person who loves golf might feel it is worth every penny.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
ApogeeDemon
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on a positive note, this might end up as the thread of the week. Who would have thunk it!
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Try as I might I can't see the point in paying anyone to teach my kid how to play a game that she has been playing since she was 8. Just like anything else there is a small window for learning, it's short and sweet, fun even. Then it's time for monotonous repetition.
freddieball
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$100/hr I would pay Jenny Finch to teach me how to pitch.....
coachjwb
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Gosh, Mike ... I just couldn't disagree with you more, but it's OK to agree to disagree too. I think learning is a lifelong adventure ... as kids mature and their skills and bodies develop, they need to continue to learn new things. Now maybe sometimes the parent is in a position to teach the kids themselves, but I think it can help a lot to have a true professional. I mean it's no different than home schooling ... it can be done and is done successfully in some families, but I prefer to find someone who is a really good teacher, and who can help take my kid to the next level. I would never have been able to teach my daughter to pitch well enough to one day pitch in college. She never did have a paid hitting coach and she did OK with that, but if I had to do it over again, I would have found her a good hitting coach too. Just my opinion ...
bigdaddyo1972
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My DD's pitching coach charges $20 and hour. She's a highly decorated Ross high school and Tiffin uni. graduate and I almost feel bad only paying her $20
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coachjwb
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That is indeed a very good rate ... you can always tip her a little more!
softballmom2000
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I agree. I could not teach her how to pitch at an upper level and I am woman enough to admit it. We are glad we spent and still spend the money to have someone with experience and knowledge teaching her how to grow in her pitching and hitting. If I didn't see the progress that I do, I don't know that I would be happy paying any amount of money, but as long as we continue to see her growth, it is money well spent.
