Hourly rates for softball instruction?!

[bh2424gh]

Mike,

If that is the case why do the NBA,NFL or any professional or collegiate level teams have coaches ?

 

[Ferrigno20]

Mike is 1000% wrong IMO. In every level of anything you do there is a person who can and has done it better. Instruction is a critical point in training. Even if a girls dad was Mike Candrea I would still agree with private instruction because thats her dads voice! Sometimes it just takes another person LOL

 

[mike_dyer]

I actually snatched the line about softball being a game of monotonous repitition from a person named Nancy Evans. She might know a little bit about it.

Also, since I was asked, I would say professional sports teams have coaches because someone has to make decisions during the games. You know, about silly and unimportant things like what to do and when to do it. There are scores of things that professional coaches do, I'd imagine teaching technique to other professionals takes up a very small portion of their time. I figure you thought you had something there, but that wasn't really the best question.

And yes, you can still learn things from a coach after you know the game. A coach can help break down your mechanics if or when you get into a slump, for example. But once your technique is solid you can spend you time, and money, continuing to be taught or you can go ahead and do what you already know how to do so many times that the odds of you getting it wrong are slim to none. Your call.

 

[Ferrigno20]

I actually snatched the line about softball being a game of monotonous repitition from a person named Nancy Evans. She might know a little bit about it.

Also, since I was asked, I would say professional sports teams have coaches because someone has to make decisions during the games. You know, about silly and unimportant things like what to do and when to do it. There are scores of things that professional coaches do, I'd imagine teaching technique to other professionals takes up a very small portion of their time. I figure you thought you had something there, but that wasn't really the best question.

And yes, you can still learn things from a coach after you know the game. A coach can help break down your mechanics if or when you get into a slump, for example. But once your technique is solid you can spend you time, and money, continuing to be taught or you can go ahead and do what you already know how to do so many times that the odds of you getting it wrong are slim to none. Your call.

SO a hitting intructor is not a hitting coach? My DD hits 500 balls a week and has been going to hitting lessons for 2 years and still gets correction at lessons. His DD has been going for 10 years and plays at Louisville and guess what still gets correction. So your theory is flawed to say the least. Even Nacy Evens worked at the University of Arizona as a full time Assistant Coach for 8 years and was one of the top players in the game from 1994 to 1998. Her duties typically have involved considerable practice-session work with Arizona's pitchers, infielders and hitters, and game-day pitching strategy. She did just say go home and do what you know.

On top of that if Pro players need instruction to get out of slumps etc what do you think a 12 year old girl needs?

 

[Ri-domination]

Is this post gonna turn to hello elbow, IR and all that stuff again. I have a feeling we're just stuck in dumb old Ohio still....

 

[mike_dyer]

So your theory is flawed to say the least.

My theory is absolutely not flawed. In my opinion it's working great.

Look, I'm really not sure who you think you are arguing with or why you think I care about your money or your time. There are things that I care less about, I can't think of any right now though.

There is a discussion going on about private instruction and, as I mentioned earlier, I can't see where it would do my kid any good at this point. She can already throw a ball and swing a bat and all that. Been doing it for a little while, you see. Her coach will call from time to time and ask if I can bring her over so he can work with her. It's a pretty long haul but we always go when we can. We go sometimes even when we can't. He's good at what he does and he has helped her out quite a bit. That's why she plays for him. No money changes hands though. Ever. All he gets is a lot of gratitude and there's an understanding that she is busting her butt on her own time.

And that's really pretty much all I've got, but you seem to be saying that I have to change my mind and start paying someone to work with her because that's what you do. If you don't mind, and really even if you do, we are going to keep on going the way we are going. It's what works for us.

Now go ahead and get that last word. Make sure you put me in my place. Because I care. Seriously.

 

[Westler33]

No please no hello elbow I think I'll have to start predicting the weather again lol.

 

[17smom]

Mike...I understand what you are saying to an extent, but also have to disagree for some kids and/or positions. Being in the same team with you and your daughter, I agree that you don't need to spend money for these things. Your daughter is very successful, a hard worker and we are fortunate that we DO have a coach with a lot of knowledge, his own setup, and the commitment to his team/girls to work with them pretty much whenever we want/need. We also have the advantage of frequent assistance at a high level for the fielding techniques during practices. Not every player has these advantages or has a parent with the knowledge to teach these things. Not every coach has their own setup up, either. Often rental prices are required.

Also, when we start talking specialty positions like pitcher or catcher, I believe it's very important to have high quality, regular instruction. My daughter goes to her instructor regularly. Now that she has her basics, he picks up small things/errors quickly when they can be corrected easily before they become hard to break habits. It is invaluable and I believe it helps not only her, but also our whole team. Granted, I don't pay anywhere close to $100/hr even though he is, in my opinion, one of the best in Ohio and worth every penny I do pay him. As good as our head coach is, I don't think he could provide the experience and knowledge specific to catching that Amber receives from Bill.

 

[HawksFerguson]

I disagree but I see your point Mike. I was a college D1 player and do instruction for my players and others at no cost. That all being said, I send my daughter to Tim Duncan for hitting instruction and over the past year it has been a success. I also send her to a pitching instructor because I do not feel that my knowledge is at a level yet to justify working only with me. I can afford to do these things for her, and I know she appreciates having another coach other then dad. I think an athlete with always succeed if they work hard, but if they want to be elite then some extra work with an instructor is a must.