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Too Late for College Recruiting?

Recently on Twitter, I saw an interesting question about college recruiting:

When is it too late to market a student-athlete?

This is an excellent question!

Even though I'm always hammering in the importance of starting early in the college recruiting articles at All About Fastpitch, the truth is, I believe that it's *almost* never too late.

I've seen high school GRADUATES secure a place to go to school and play their sport after graduation! Is that the ideal situation? Definitely not. Are your odds in that situation good? No, they are very, very, very slim. Most would say slim to none.
However, just because you didn't get started with marketing yourself as a student-athlete as early as you should of (even if you're downright late!), I don't think you should just give up.

You have to realize, though, that you have a LOT of work cut out for you.

Realize that it will NOT be an easy journey (heck most times it isn't easy even when you do start early). But if continuing to play softball after high school is something that you really want to do, dig in and starting learning about all the things you can do to make that a reality. *Then put her head down and plow toward that goal!

One thing I see that I just don't get is this:

"Late comers" who started the college recruiting process way later than they should have complaining about offers they get.

I understand that this may have been a dream of the student-athlete and their family for a long time. I know it can be extremely disappointing when the reality of "no scholarship" hits. HOWEVER, you have to remember than when your senior year in high school started (this is usually when I see this happen), you had no college to go to AND no option of playing softball after high school.

So, if somehow during your senior year, you get 1 or 2 schools showing interest, consider that a huge step up from where you were.

Too many times the student-athlete and family are at this point and they are all salty about schools offering them a spot on the team, but not having "softball money" for them. *The reality is that less than 1% of high school student-athletes receive an athletic scholarship.

Not having an athletic scholarship offer actually puts you in the overwhelming majority and reality of high school student-athletes. *It's not necessarily because you're not "worth it" or because you weren't "good enough." *It's a numbers game and it's a marketing/preparedness game too. *Often times those who are the most prepared and those who put the most in, get the most out of their college recruiting journey. *If you were unprepared or didn't put much in (didn't do much marketing), you're automatically at a big disadvantage.

But I'm getting a little off track here. *Back to the topic at hand - getting offers to play at schools that don't have money?

IF, and this is a very important IF, these schools have other attributes you like besides a softball program (i.e. they actually offer the area of study you are interested in, they are actually located in an area you wouldn't mind going to school, the environment at the school is one that you'd be comfortable in, etc, etc, etc), then you should seriously think about these schools as an option - even if there is no "softball money" attached.

Think about it?Any other school you choose has:

1.no softball money for you AND

2.no softball for you either!

When your senior year began, you were looking at having to pay for college anyway AND you didn't even have anyone offering you the opportunity to continue playing softball.

So yes, while it may not be your ultimate "dream" situation of*being at an upper level softball program on a full ride, you DO now have the option to:

1.continue your education at a place that has other attributes you were looking for

2.keep playing a game you love

3.possibly work your way into some "softball money" down the road

But, and goes along with that very important IF I talked about earlier - IF the schools giving you the possibility of playing softball have NOTHING else you like or want in a school, keep looking, keep searching, and find a better fit - even if it means that softball *may not* be a possibility.

It hurts to say this, but the reality is that if the school you choose has nothing besides softball that you want, chances are quite high that you will quit playing before your 1st season there is done AND with that comes the increased likelihood that you'll also quit going to the school as well. *Now where does that leave you? *You are better off choosing a school you WANT to be at regardless of the softball issue (this is true even when you are going to be playing softball at the college level).


Comments on Too Late for College Recruiting? ?

February 18, 2010
Jennifer Gonzalez
I've been playing softball all my life and i haven't looked at any schools for softball beacuse i cant afford college. But i would love to play college softball ball i worked on my skills since i was 8 years old. Here i am now a senior in high school Knowing everything i need to know about softball I love the sport and i would love it to be a part of me forever!
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Lou Frontero
At what age do you think you should start being recruited? What to do to be noticed, besides being an all-star?
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Bryan Hartley, Softball Coach at Waycross College
The points in the article above are so true. There are many great athletes that are deserving of scholarship money yet find themselves un-signed late in their Senior year. It is important for these athletes not to define their self-worth solely on receiving an athletic scholarship. More importantly athletes need to focus on playing for the love of the game. As for Jennifer's comment, there are many other options available to fund college expenses such as financial aid grants, student loans, and/or academic scholarships. The key is not to give up, keep working to find the right fit for your educational and athletic desires.
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Coach Bob
Be careful of what you ask for! Most people don't even understand what playing on a scholarship means. It means four hour practices, seven days a week, perhaps only to sit the bench. Playing a grueling 70 game schedule with long travel time. Only carrying 12 credits a semester in the spring, so you can't graduate in 4 years. Not being able to take a major where pm labs or mandatory OJT (like student teaching) is required. Having no social life or free time and much more. Playing on a sports scholarship is a job. It's not all glory and fun. I have two daughters who both played in college. One on a sports scholarship and one on a academic scholarship and have coached HS and college softball for years. I encourage gifted girls to take academic scholarships and grants over sports scholarships every time. Div III schools are often the best academic schools and many have scholarship money. They are limited to 40 games a season, most double headers, so you are playing basically a HS schedule. Practices are usually limited to two hours five or six days a week. My youngest daughter, a pitcher, was recruited by six major Div I colleges, which would have been full rides. She accepted a Div III academic scholarship and was ranked sixth in the Nation. She had a wonderful college experience. Her softball experience helped her get accepted over other applicants. She went on to medical school after four years. Many players who are pushed into softball scholarship positions quit after one or two years. This often results in them quiting college as well. Stacie's comments are right on. Choose a college you love and meets your academic needs first. Then look at the softball program. Take the time to learn about Div I, II and III programs. Check out community colleges as well, for your start.
Coach Bob
 
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*The reality is that less than 1% of high school student-athletes receive an athletic scholarship.

Just counting DI programs in Ohio (I believe there are 11) that is over 130 athletic scholarships available. Add in DII and I'm thinking that would be close to 200 available softball scholarships? Considering all are not fully funded, that would lower that number somewhat. But every program splits scholarships to spread the money around too - so I could confidently say that at least 12 squad members are on some amount of athletic scholarship.

So that 1% statistic would equal roughly a pool of 20,000 Ohio high school softball players - unless my math is terribly flawed?
 
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*The reality is that less than 1% of high school student-athletes receive an athletic scholarship.

Just counting DI programs in Ohio (I believe there are 11) that is over 130 athletic scholarships available. Add in DII and I'm thinking that would be close to 200 available softball scholarships? Considering all are not fully funded, that would lower that number somewhat. But every program splits scholarships to spread the money around too - so I could confidently say that at least 12 squad members are on some amount of athletic scholarship.

So that 1% statistic would equal roughly a pool of 20,000 Ohio high school softball players - unless my math is terribly flawed?

Maybe i am missing something, but the fact that kids come from other states to play here and are on scholarship would change your numbers.

Would it not be 1% of the players in the entire country?
 
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Wouldent you have to have the numbers from each division. and who recieved full, 1/2, 1/4 and so on? I diddnt think about players from other states impacting the numbers. theres also NAIA scholerships, their Divisions are set much the same as NCAA if im not mistaken, The info would be pretty neat to see, we always went off the equation that 1% of High School players go on to play college ball ( on the average, I know theres stud filled HS teams) and of that 1% not all get athletic money...... cool topic
 
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It would also include ALL student-athletes. How many football players are there in the state, and how many get $ in college? I know in our high school, we had 65 players or so, and 1 received a ride. Think about volleyball, wrestling, basketball, etc. Then, do they count one kid as a student-athlete regardless of how many sports she plays, or do they count the overall number of players in each sport regardless of how many girls play multiple sports?
 
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Just doing the math based on the number of D1 and D2 schools and how many scholarships they are allowed per year = 5,130 in the country in softball each year.
 
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Here we go of the NCAA web site
), Most colleges and universities that sponsor sports programs belong to one of three major athletic associations. The National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA the National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA), or the National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA).
The NCAA has three divisions. NCAA division 1 is considered the top college sporting level. Division 2 ranks below division 1 and generally offers a lesser number of scholarships. . In division 3 there are no athletic grants in aid but other forms of financial aid as well as academic scholarships are sometimes awarded
The NCAA allows each division 1 softball program 12 scholarships and 7.2 in division 2.
There are 262 division 1 and 253 division 2 colleges that offer softball scholarships.
That's a total of 4,965.6 softball grants available in the NCAA alone.
The NAIA is also divided into 3 divisions and in general division 1 schools can offer more sports scholarships than division 2 schools.
the NJCAA is composed of "two year colleges" and is also divided into 3 divisions. NJCAA division 1 colleges may offer athletes a full athletic scholarship, division 2 colleges may only offer partial scholarships that cover tuition, fees and books while division 3 colleges cannot offer any
 
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More from the same article
As you're sitting around waiting for a coach to call you, think of these numbers. Every fall, roughly 3,500 to 4,000 young women will enter four-year colleges as new recruits destined for the softball team. Of this total number, 80% will go to play for Division II, and Division III and NAIA college teams, and 90% will be going to schools that are located east of the state of Colorado! Of this total number, only about 50% will get any softball-based aid. (Players may get lots of other kinds of financial aid, but a lot of students will not be signing a National Letter of Intent.) And, finally, of the above total number only about 75 to 100 athletes will go to Top 20 Division I teams. (This means only three to four kids a year will go to an Arizona or a Texas.)
 
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No matter the exact numbers, it's a very small percentage. "Investing" in earning a scholarship pays off at a rate far less than if you took the same amount of cash and bought instant lottery tickets. Those that get any athletic money to play a sport in college should consider themselves very lucky. (and good too) The investment has to be in the intangibles and what you get out of the road along the way. I think that is considerable and worthwhile in itself for most, but as a tool to get college money alone, it's a waste of cash 99% of the time.

I liked "Coach Bob's" comments about "fit". It's the most important thing when choosing a school IMHO. I often wonder how many of these kids who sign with a D1 school actually get any significant playing time during their career, especially the first couple years. Certainly some do, but a fair amount of very good players do a lot of sitting I suspect. Then if things don't pan out, you may not even have the money being offered in years 2-3-4. (and 5??) Ouch. Meanwhile, they could have had an excellent career at a lower level school without the athletic scholarship. Read Joe's blog to get some insight into life at the lower levels and you may find out it's not so bad after all.

Study first (and get that guaranteed academic $$$), practice second. THAT is a SURE THING!
 
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There is another intangible in all this at the D-III level. Even though athletic scholarships don't exist coaches can influence the award of an academic scholarship if it can be justified through GPA, and SAT/ACT scores. There are cases where kids who might not have gotten academic scholarships on their own got them because the coach "went to bat" for them.
 
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Coach Bob hit it on the head. If they give you money, they own you. And that will make it very tough to major in any of the hard sciences, accounting,medicine, computer science or engineering. AKA the degrees most in demand by employers. .
 
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No matter the exact numbers, it's a very small percentage. "Investing" in earning a scholarship pays off at a rate far less than if you took the same amount of cash and bought instant lottery tickets. Those that get any athletic money to play a sport in college should consider themselves very lucky. (and good too) The investment has to be in the intangibles and what you get out of the road along the way. I think that is considerable and worthwhile in itself for most, but as a tool to get college money alone, it's a waste of cash 99% of the time.

I liked "Coach Bob's" comments about "fit". It's the most important thing when choosing a school IMHO. I often wonder how many of these kids who sign with a D1 school actually get any significant playing time during their career, especially the first couple years. Certainly some do, but a fair amount of very good players do a lot of sitting I suspect. Then if things don't pan out, you may not even have the money being offered in years 2-3-4. (and 5??) Ouch. Meanwhile, they could have had an excellent career at a lower level school without the athletic scholarship. Read Joe's blog to get some insight into life at the lower levels and you may find out it's not so bad after all.

Study first (and get that guaranteed academic $$$), practice second. THAT is a SURE THING!

EXCELLENT post!
"The investment has to be in the intangibles and what you get out of the road along the way." This is SO true, and completely overlooked by most, and is probably THE most important!! The Holy Grail ISN'T the $$$ you get for the athletic scholarship - because it's more than likely a break-even after factoring cash spent on travel ball, lessons, equipment, etc. College softball is 4 short years, the college experience is usually about 5 short years, but the education and maturing process will reap a lifetime of rewards. With the fitness and practice demands, the spring travel schedule, and course load, I don't see how in the world a lazy kid could get through softball in college!!

Playing Time: Probably depends on the team and coach. Just as in (real) travel ball, there are NEVER any guarantees. Every coach expects players to battle and earn their playing time. Results is what matters, so if a kid goes in with the attitude "I'm God's gift to softball", they just might get an ego check in the form of bench time. IMO, there's a little strategy in making your recruiting decision. If you're a pitcher and the team you're considering already has 6 underclassmen pitchers, it's going to be tough breaking into the lineup. Look closely at the roster when making your decision. Bottom line is that if you're all that worried about not getting playing time, stay away from DI.
 
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ok....2 things here.
1. It is absolutely illegal for a Div III coach to influence any decision on any money given to an athlete. The athlete can do that, but the coach can not. The schools can not show ANY preferential treatment towards athletes in any money awarded that they would not do to the general student population.

2. One thing that people need to realize here is that just because a school is Div I or Div II, does not mean that they are givingthe allotted full amount of scholarships by the NCAA.
Example, Just because a school is DIv I and allowed 12 scholarships, that does nto mean that that is what that school gives. In the state of Ohio there are 11 Division I schools, only Only 8 give the full allottment of 12 scholarships. There are 3 that are not fully funded Division I schools. They might only be giving 4, 6, or 10. That is the schools decision. That is the same for Division II. Just because they are allowed to give 7.2 that does not mean that is what the schools allow.

Sounds crazy..I know.....but it is a fact and a reality. So some of the numbers of potential scholarships that are presented throughout this thread, are very high. There are tons of Division I schools that dont give the full 12. The ivy league schools compete Div I but give NO athletic money. NONE! It is an ivy league rule. No athletic scholarships.

Just wanted to throw that wrench out there.
 
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ok....2 things here.
1. It is absolutely illegal for a Div III coach to influence any decision on any money given to an athlete. The athlete can do that, but the coach can not. The schools can not show ANY preferential treatment towards athletes in any money awarded that they would not do to the general student population.

Yes it is illegal. Does it still happen? Absolutely!
 
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There is another intangible in all this at the D-III level. Even though athletic scholarships don't exist coaches can influence the award of an academic scholarship if it can be justified through GPA, and SAT/ACT scores. There are cases where kids who might not have gotten academic scholarships on their own got them because the coach "went to bat" for them.


I am sure that there are many (MANY) obscure scholarships, grants, and otehr awards available out there that I will probably NEVER know about, but they are catalogued and known by a financial department secretary somewhere .... sure would love to have "somebody" wanting that secretary to work past 4:30 some day on dd's behalf .... did I mention that she is 1/80 Eskimo?? ;&
 
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Yes it is illegal. Does it still happen? Absolutely!

Athletics help out with the "well rounded student" aspect that schools like to see. Same reason they want to know about all extracurricular activities. It's not going to happen for a C student, but for students with less than straight A's - (maybe a 3.4) for sure. Some kids like to have things like Art Club, Spanish Club, Yearbook Committee, etc. on their resumes. We all know the reality about some of this stuff. Kid signs up for Art Club, go pose for the yearbook picture, and never do anything art related thereafter. Schools know this too.
 
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There is something to be said for the high school 3.4 GPA athlete who has had to work very hard to maintain their GPA. Combined with a track record of service hours/volunteer work, they make very attractive scholarship candidates, simply because of their work ethic. On the other hand, a (supposedly) 4.0 "gifted" student who hasn't had to work all that hard because they were not challenged in high school might not adapt very well to the rigors of college athletics.
 
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There is something to be said for the high school 3.4 GPA athlete who has had to work very hard to maintain their GPA. Combined with a track record of service hours/volunteer work, they make very attractive scholarship candidates, simply because of their work ethic. On the other hand, a (supposedly) 4.0 "gifted" student who hasn't had to work all that hard because they were not challenged in high school might not adapt very well to the rigors of college athletics.

You are so right.....
I watched my DD play varsity basketball,softball,work and take honors classes.
She worked her @#$ off to keep a 3.4 (not a good test taker) while other took easy classes and had great gpa's.
she is one of the lucky 1% on an athletic scholarship.
I know she is ready for her freshman yr at Norther Kentucky.
 
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