USSSA Tournament Lancaster Early Bird - USSSA WSQ

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Need some scores for 10U. Should not be that hard to have something posted. Then again, maybe it is.

When we left the park the Dragons and Starz were tied 4-4. Lasers already earned their spot in the Championship at that point after beating Stingrays.

Got a text later on that the Dragons pulled out the win v Starz. Championship was Dragons v Lasers.

My kids won their first bracket game and lost (another) heartbreaker to the Stingrays 5-4 in the bottom of the final inning. DD pitched a one hitter but the "little things" as I call them ended up being deal breakers for us. Was a good game and we look forward to another Stingrays matchup (probably in Pickerington July 4th).

Stayed and watched a drama filled game with Dragons v Classics. Dragons prevailed but not without controversy (infield fly rule called on a hit that landed 30 feet in the grass!). Then another really wierd play at the plate where the batter had strike 2, but thought it was strike three with a dropped 3rd. Started going to first and interfered with a play at the plate. Not sure the officials got it right, but runner was called safe at home the batter was called out for inteference. Classics have a legit beef with the officiating on this one but that's the way it goes.

Overall a very good tournament with awesome competition. Again I saw something that I've never seen before. Check this out. Lasers v Dragons last game of pool play. Lasers pitcher throwing serious heat. Pitches fastball over catcher's head. Lefty slapper for Dragons swings for strike three and immediately runs to first. The ball never touched the catcher's mitt, hits the backstop so hard and bounces back to the pitcher who fields it like a grounder and throws out the runner at first! On a "dropped strike 3!" If I was ever going to see that I would never expect it at 10U. Crazy.

Strohbro, watch your PM. Looking for intel on next weekend.

 

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Any word on the 12u scores this weekend?

 

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Any 12U scores?

Glory 3
12u Stingrays 2
In championship game. Congrats to Glory. Very well played game. Our prayers are with the player who got hurt during the game. Any updates anyone has on her condition would be appreciated.

 

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Thanks for the 12u update softballmom.

 

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Sounds like an interesting weekend for the 10U division. Can't wait to play some of these teams in the Summer months. This IS going to be a great season!

 

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Glory 3
12u Stingrays 2
In championship game. Congrats to Glory. Very well played game. Our prayers are with the player who got hurt during the game. Any updates anyone has on her condition would be appreciated.

not exactly sure but was hyper extended sprain we will be without her next weekend though i know that for sure.she is a very dynamic player we will miss but hoping she will be back for dayton was great game both sides alot of balls put in play and alot of good defense i am sure we will be meeting up alot so good luck to you guys as well

 

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So who won? Dragons or Lasers?

 

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So who won? Dragons or Lasers?

Got a text that the Lasers won it. Didn't get a score however. Dan you met me. Their pitcher has bigger arms than mine.

 

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Glory 3
12u Stingrays 2
In championship game. Congrats to Glory. Very well played game. Our prayers are with the player who got hurt during the game. Any updates anyone has on her condition would be appreciated.

Thanks for prayers and concern for my DD... Not sure extent of damage just yet, but xray didn't show anything with bones, hoping it is only a sprain and she can be back in a couple of weeks. Wish we could have been there to be a part of this one as it sounded like a great game. We did get good news though... she is not done growing yet... DD was excited about that... LOL

 

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So who won? Dragons or Lasers?

Lasers run ruled the Dragons in 3 innings 16-4

 

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What were scores of elimination play for 10u ? Quarter and semi finals ???

 

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I would like to congratulate the Lasers Purple on their first place finish. I would also like to say how proud I am of my Dragons. They played in two huge games before we got to the championship. We played 3 ITB innings with the Classics to come up with the win 9-8. They fought hard and the had to turn around and play the Licking County Stars after an 10 minute break. We then went into extra innings with the Stars and won 9-7. Our girls played for over 4 hours straight before getting to the championship game versus the Lasers. We just did not have any gas left. The girls tried, but we were banged up and very tired. I am so proud of how these girls just kept fighting for over 5 straight hours. They are a team to be reckoned with and they proved that on the field this weekend. GO DRAGONS '99!!!!

 

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Championship game Lasers Purple 16 Dragons 4 3 innings..........

Great Job PURPLE!!!! Way to hit this weekend!!!!! :yahoo:

Very proud of you!!!!
Lasermom

 

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Sounds like we missed some great ball games, congrats Lasers and Dragons. We are looking forward to seeing you all in June/July at ASA State, Lasers, Stingrays, Heating it up, and GAPSS.

 

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Stayed and watched a drama filled game with Dragons v Classics. Dragons prevailed but not without controversy (infield fly rule called on a hit that landed 30 feet in the grass!). Then another really wierd play at the plate where the batter had strike 2, but thought it was strike three with a dropped 3rd. Started going to first and interfered with a play at the plate. Not sure the officials got it right, but runner was called safe at home the batter was called out for inteference. Classics have a legit beef with the officiating on this one but that's the way it goes.


What you forgot to say was that the Classics coaches argued every call that did not go in there favor. every close call and every pitch that did not get the call that they wanted. Every time the umpire called a ball when their pitcher was pitching they argued no matter if it was 5 ft outside or every time there batter was at the plate and the umpire called a strike they argued. If you argue with the umpires with every call, it is fair to some of the close ones probably wont go your way.

As for the play at the plate the umpires got it right. The batter interfered with the play. She only had two strikes, ran our in front of the plate to start to first base and interfered with the pitcher coming in to cover and with the catcher coming to make the tag. Run scored, batter out.

 

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Stayed and watched a drama filled game with Dragons v Classics. Dragons prevailed but not without controversy (infield fly rule called on a hit that landed 30 feet in the grass!). Then another really wierd play at the plate where the batter had strike 2, but thought it was strike three with a dropped 3rd. Started going to first and interfered with a play at the plate. Not sure the officials got it right, but runner was called safe at home the batter was called out for inteference. Classics have a legit beef with the officiating on this one but that's the way it goes.


What you forgot to say was that the Classics coaches argued every call that did not go in there favor. every close call and every pitch that did not get the call that they wanted. Every time the umpire called a ball when their pitcher was pitching they argued no matter if it was 5 ft outside or every time there batter was at the plate and the umpire called a strike they argued. If you argue with the umpires with every call, it is fair to some of the close ones probably wont go your way.

As for the play at the plate the umpires got it right. The batter interfered with the play. She only had two strikes, ran our in front of the plate to start to first base and interfered with the pitcher coming in to cover and with the catcher coming to make the tag. Run scored, batter out.

I saw the whole thing and definitely not taking sides. As I said Drama filled but we have friends on both teams. My comment about the beef had to do with that Infield Fly Rule call. Should have been plate umps call but I think that field ump had been waiting his whole life to call one.

Regarding the play at the plate, I just thought it was wrong that if the batter intefered with the play at the plate, why was the run scored as safe? I think it's a question for Bretman.

 

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Congratulations to 10U Lasers and Dragons. My hat goes off to the LGSA. What a nice tournament. Great fields, great facilities, great umpires. Can't wait to come back to Lacaster!

 

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On the Infield Fly: You need to answer one question: Could the ball have been caught with ordinary effort by an infielder? I couldn't possibly tell you that without seeing the play- or, at least, getting a better description from somebody that did.

If "yes", then this was a valid call. If "no", then it probably wasn't.

That the ball landed "in the grass" is not a determining factor. There's no line- real or imagined- where you can't call in Infield Fly if the ball passes it.

USSSA rules say that an Infield Fly is normally called by the plate umpire, but do say that either may make the call.

On the Batter Interference: Again, another one where it would help to actually see it. If the batter thought it was strike three and left the box, wouldn't she only be a step out of the box if she was "in front of the plate"?

Where was the runner from third. Was she coming in on a straight steal and thus arrived at the plate at the same time the batter left the box? Did the batter come out of the box and just stand there until the runner reached the plate?

I guess I'm having a hard time picturing how the batter, the runner, the pitcher and the catcher were all in the same vicinity of home plate, all at the same time.

But...assuming the batter's positioning did prevent the defense from making a play on an advancing runner, that would be interference. And, if it was interference, no run should have been allowed to score.

USSSA has a batter interference rule that's different than ASA or high school, in regards to who is called out on this play. Their rule is similar to the standard baseball ruling.

If there are two outs at the time of the interference, the batter is out. Thus, no runs can possibly score because the third out is against the batter before reaching first base.

If there are less than two outs, the runner being played upon is out. Obviously, the run can't score if the runner is out.

For ASA and high school, it is always the batter who is out for batter interference.

Either way, no run should be allowed to score on any batter interference call! Allowing a run to score lets the offensive team benefit by interfering with a play, gaining an advantage that is not intended by the rules.

 

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My guess is that where the catcher fielded the ball has something to do with them all be in the same vicinity. It was a dropped ball.

 

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Here's what I saw. Batter swung on strike two but thought it was strike three and took a couple steps toward the dugout. Simultaneously everyone yelled for her to run to first as the ball was squirting away (thinking dropped strike three) from the catcher and the runner headed home. Batter turned and headed to first and got in the way of the play at the plate in which the runner slid safe.

Big time out lots of arguing and discussing and the resulting call was that the batter was out for interference but the run scored.

Regarding the IFR, that wasn't a question (sorry). Ball was 50 feet over the shortstop's head. She had no prayer of getting to it. Outfield was deep so it dropped in. It was a blown call for sure.