Pitching and Pitchers Discussion leap, crow hop, 24 inch ?zone?

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Havent seen this on OFC yet. ?Probably addresses alot of questions.



http://www.nfhs.org/web/2008/02/softball_video_clips__training.aspx

 

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Thanks a lot PURPLE !

 

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Rob, that sure opens some doors, doesn't it ?

 

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Very interesting info!

I don't think I would like to face the girl pitching behind her back....talk about timing!!!

 

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Very interesting info isnt it Dennis ........

 

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Good information to have. I do on the other hand think the ( 24inch zone) is a little much. I have seen many, and I mean many girls get out of that zone. That must be one of those rules that is only going to be called if the other team is really losing bad, and grasping for straws!!! But it is the rule. Just have not heard of it being inforced as much as the others!!

 

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Re: leap, crow hop, 24 inch  zone?

Good information to have. I do on the other hand think the ( 24inch zone) is a little much. I have seen many, and I mean many girls get out of that zone. That must be one of those rules that is only going to be called if the other team is really losing bad, and grasping for straws!!! But it is the rule. Just have not heard of it being inforced as much as the others!!

Had two umps this spring in HS ball call the 24" zone, but you're right it doesn't get called much.

 

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I believe a lot of umpires know the 24'' rule but do not look for it. I asked an umpire at a game today, as a pitcher was outside the pitching plate. He told me he just was not looking for it. The game did not concern me so I did not press my luck. An inning later the umpire told me he saw this violation on every pitch, He talked to the coach. This was a JV game no sense to push the envelope as they lost any way.

 

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This link is awesome. Thank you for this. I saved it as a favorite and I will be taking my laptop to all of my tournaments this summer. Can you see an appeal with a laptop? LOL... I always wanted to be the first.....

 

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This link was posted a few months ago, but it is good info and worth reviewing.

Johnnies, you gonna show up an ump by showing ?'em videos??? ;D

If it works for you, please let me know.

 

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Oh, I can't wait. ;D I will let you know if cyberspace wins or not. It will at least educate some people...

Can you see me running to the home plate with a laptop? I may have to go IPod.,,, ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

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What % of pitchers do you think leap? Would I be stretching to say 50%?

 

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I would say 15-20%

 

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Great info .....have seen lots of pichers crow hop on an old team had a pitcher that hoped and have seen alot of others do the same
they should call it alot more than they do

 

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Leaping? I think 50% is a little much. I would have to say at least 10 to 30%. Leaping is not a normal pitching style. I will have to say that it probably is a tough style to teach. If any one watched the ( VT vs USA) game, when we ALL saw Jenny ( crow Hoping) that might be the style that would be the one to watch for. It seems kinda easy to ( get away with) if you were looking for a little extra boost!! All in All, it depends one what your umpire is looking for and if you are training a pitcher or a cheater??? It your choice?? oh by the way ( JMOH) ;D

 

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maybe the best post ever!

 

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...you are training a pitcher or a cheater??? It your choice??

This has always been the issue for me. ?It doesn't matter if Cat or Jenny does it. ?It doesn't matter if the umpires will or won't call it. ?All that matters is if you are pitching legally or not. ?To knowingly not pitch legally or teach someone to not pitch legally is unethical and just plain wrong. ?It is against the rules, period. ?

 

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I call the 24 inch violation when I see, it should not matter what level it is the pitchers are not going to learn as much if you just keep talking to them, when they get penalized for it they will remember it alot more.

Leaping is not really not that prevalent as it was 7 or eight years ago. What people think is leaping is not. You have to remember if there is a whole in front of the pitcher's plate the rule states that the pitcher just have to keep toe level with the pitcher's plate. Many people are looking for a drag here but there is not a need to drag in this situation. With a leap you are getting a big advantage, instead of dragging the pivot you are getting a stronger push off from the plate and therefore for power on the ball.