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I know they are a great organization, they teach everything you are looking for... Fairness, equality, friendship, family and being a better student.
I know they are a great organization, they teach everything you are looking for... Fairness, equality, friendship, family and being a better student.
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like anything, you explain why you are doing it! I agree there are going to be exceptions to every rule, but I think if you are beating a team by 20 runs your girls should understand why you are doing what you are doing! As previously stated "it is about winning" come on, these are young girls we are talking about! I would hope coaches are teaching them more than it is just about winning!
JMHO
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The thread was not started to complain about lopsided games, it was started to complain about posting scores that included ridiculous numbers. There is no need to post those scores.
On a sidenote, I would rather have my daughter's team play .500 ball with scores decide by 1-2 runs, rather than playing .650 ball and run ruling games left and right that are against just bad teams. So if your team is winning by 15 runs a game in tournaments, instead of chest-thumping, I would be pretty ticked off and asking the HC why the heck are we not in better tournaments? A 15-0 game is a complete WASTE OF TIME.
On a sidenote, I would rather have my daughter's team play .500 ball with scores decide by 1-2 runs, rather than playing .650 ball and run ruling games left and right that are against just bad teams. So if your team is winning by 15 runs a game in tournaments, instead of chest-thumping, I would be pretty ticked off and asking the HC why the heck are we not in better tournaments? A 15-0 game is a complete WASTE OF TIME.
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So why would you throw them under the bus like that? Should coaches not try to instill the same values??
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How is that throwing them under the bus?
Look, scores are scores. How does posting a lopsided score affect a 10 or 12 year old kid? They know they lost the game. The only way they know it is on here is if their parent or coach is complaining about it within earshot.
Look, scores are scores. How does posting a lopsided score affect a 10 or 12 year old kid? They know they lost the game. The only way they know it is on here is if their parent or coach is complaining about it within earshot.
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crystal, read the posts they were thrown under the bus because of what was said! Also the post has nothing to do with what is on here? The post asked why beat a team but 20 or 25 runs? I know what the scores could be, but once again, and every as always the coach should be asking " how does this benefit the girls" not the coach!
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I didn't throw them under the bus. I suggested you join them since you want fairness, equality, unicorns, pink ponies and rainbows. Coaches coach! The teach the game. YOU as a parent need to step up and teach life lessons. Take them to church, join Girl Scouts, volunteer community service. Quit putting your responsibilities on the coaches! Coaches see your kid 2-4 hours a week for practice and then on the weekends for tournaments.
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I remember my DD's team getting run ruled when she was 11u by Ice and Stingrays early in the season, to a point where they started batting everybody opposite side. DD learned there are really good players or she needs to work harder. She joined Ice next year and started working harder, so lesson was learned. Thankfully they didn't leave bases early, run into tags or purposely struck out for this would be more embarrassing to her.
Rather lose by 50 then team purposely start making outs because they feel sorry for me. JMHO and DD's
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Okay, sounds like this is a little more specific then and we are talking about a certain team because otherwise there are way too many other scenarios that could be possible. Let's say it's a team who has struggled and never beat someone by that much, or two highly ranked teams and one team just dominated or a certain team is playing in a higher level tournament to see what its all about, etc... Fact of the matter is, is that at the end of the game there is a score and I see no problem posting the result, unless like I stated before, it's inaccurate or anyone is putting another team down. I really don't see the big deal.
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I believe your new at this? A coach should be responsible to his/her team, not the actions of other teams and how they lay the smack down on a bad team. its just as hard to teach a game when up 22-0. Asking a base runner to leave early is like kissing your sister, how about teaching the team to get out of the situation? As for equality, fairness, etc. does that work in elimination games?
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Is your issue the running up of the score or the posting of the score?
Oh, and I read the posts and clearly am not seeing what you are seeing. I agree that general life lessons are the responsibility of the parent, not the coach. Yes, sportsmanship and fair play should be part of the game, but the bigger lessons, such as working hard to improve and not making excuses...those are the responsibility of the parent.
Oh, and I read the posts and clearly am not seeing what you are seeing. I agree that general life lessons are the responsibility of the parent, not the coach. Yes, sportsmanship and fair play should be part of the game, but the bigger lessons, such as working hard to improve and not making excuses...those are the responsibility of the parent.
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They don't have a like button when doing this from a smart phone, so consider this the like
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1st I guess it is a little of both!
2nd I understand it is the parents responsibility, but is it not the coaches to help in life lessons as well to make a well rounded individual and player? As JDCii says it is the coaches responsibility to coach, do life lessons not come into that as well?
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When you say run ruled was it 20 or 25 runs, and although they did not do the things I mentioned it sounds like ice and stingrays did everything they could not to ease the pain! That is why they are sound organizations!
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DD's last high school game was a loss to the number 3 team in the state, Div 1 in the district semi's. She pitched the whole game and lost 8-1. Several days later she saw the local newspaper headline describing the game as a "Clobbering" with her name as the losing pitcher plainly spelled out in the third paragraph!! No hiding, no excuses, just a fact and a verb! So yes, crystl, bigger lessons do come from these things...
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the life lesson-give it your all regardless of being up 20-0 or down 20-0. A coach can tell the girls to keep their heads up getting run ruled, doesn't mean they'll listen; kind like leading a horse to water.
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No, I do not feel it is the coach's job. That is the parent's job. It is not my DD's coach's job to parent my child under any circumstances. If you are doing your job as a parent, it becomes unneccesary for the coach to teach these lessons. When my DD or her team experience failure, she and I or her father discuss what she could have done differdntly. We never p!ss and moan about the other team or the umps. We are big fans of personal responsibility. And that is a life lesson that only a parent can teach.
Let the coach teach the game and YOU subsidize with the lessons.
Let the coach teach the game and YOU subsidize with the lessons.
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If it applies to softball... These are volunteers, not life coaches. Sure there are life lessons to be learned and can be applied to every day life if your child is able to put the two together. But if you want the everyone is a winner and no one loses scenario I too suggest the girl scouts, summer camp or maybe rec ball. I believe my DD has learned the most from the losses she has experienced and transferred them into lessons on winning. Just saying.
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Must have been the Chronicle (I think that's Elyria's paper).
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Like. We need that like feature from doing this from a phone...lol
