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If youv''e decided to not play remaining tourneys with your current team and would like to play w others,what are asa and nsa requirements?
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This is not a simple question, nor is there a simple answer. For NSA, I have no idea. For ASA, it depends in part on whether your DD has been officially rostered on a "red-lined" ASA Championship Play roster. If she is currently not on a red-lined roster, you are probably ok to play in future ASA events, including the few remaining events in which an official ASA roster will be collected.
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Thanks for your answers,not qualifyed on this team for any nationals,hoping for answers on nsa.
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I didn't ask you whether you had qualified for any ASA Nationals, I asked whether you were on a red-lined roster from a Championship Play tournament. That would include an ASA Eastern National Qualifier, assuming they followed the rules relating to collecting and "red-lining" rosters. As I said, it is not a simple question or answer.
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From the NSA Player Release Form:
NSA Player release form is here: http://www.ohionsafp.net/Official_NSA_Player_Release_Form.pdf
From the 2012 ASA Code (you'll be covered by the JO designation):
NSA Player release form is here: http://www.ohionsafp.net/Official_NSA_Player_Release_Form.pdf
From the 2012 ASA Code (you'll be covered by the JO designation):
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Like cgs said, it's not an easy question....it depends on the tournaments you plan on attending. NSA and ASA are basically the same with this regard. If you are not red-lined to a championship roster, you are ok to play with other teams until the roster you are on gets red-lined, then you are locked to it. Your biggest issue with team jumping would be getting released, unless the teams you are playing for are only going to open roster tournaments and not qualifiers.
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Article 106. P (03) - Player Release is for a player that has participated on a team in championship play. They may be released from a team after
participating in Championship Play, but it shall be prior to the State / Metro Association roster change deadline and shall have written approval from the Coach and Player / Parent Guardian ( if under age 18 ).
When is the roster change deadline?
participating in Championship Play, but it shall be prior to the State / Metro Association roster change deadline and shall have written approval from the Coach and Player / Parent Guardian ( if under age 18 ).
When is the roster change deadline?
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I thought the deadline is States????
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@jennatyui:
My only quibble with your post is that a player has participated in championship play when she has been rostered in an ASA Eastern qualifier, whether or not her team won that tournament. All of the rosters in ASA Eastern qualifiers are supposed to be red-lined, though I suspect that isn't happening 100% of the time. In any event, the way I read the ASA Code, if you played in championship play, you are open to challenge if you play, without a release, for another team in championship play later that season. That is true whether or not your original team won any championship play tournament in which it played.
My only quibble with your post is that a player has participated in championship play when she has been rostered in an ASA Eastern qualifier, whether or not her team won that tournament. All of the rosters in ASA Eastern qualifiers are supposed to be red-lined, though I suspect that isn't happening 100% of the time. In any event, the way I read the ASA Code, if you played in championship play, you are open to challenge if you play, without a release, for another team in championship play later that season. That is true whether or not your original team won any championship play tournament in which it played.
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CGS- you may very well be correct! I thought for ENQ, it only mattered if you got a bid....but for NQ, once you play (regardless if you get a bid or not) you are redlined.
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Thank you all for your replys,Her previous team hasn't qualifyed for either a Nsa,orAsa National event,Have played in qualifyer tourneys but never finished in Top 2,Wil ask for realese from her current coach ,can he intentionly not release her?Once again thanks for your help
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okkaayyy . . . I'm thinking maybe you'd better let the coach of your new team assess and handle these issues. Again, I'm not familiar with NSA but from what The Bear May posted, it looks like her current coach can indeed refuse to release her. And as others have pointed out, if you need an ASA release (which is not clear to me because you didn't indicate whether her old team played in ASA national qualifiers), you may be out of time. Best in this situation to have your new coach deal directly with the NSA and ASA state officials.
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I believe you are missing what is being said. It doesn't matter if they win, or even PLACE in a qualifier. Technically, just playing in a qualifier is considered Championship Play.
And yes, he can intentionally not release her if you owe the team money. That is one of the questions the ASA or NSA rep will ask.
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Obviously things didn't work out for you like you had hoped or you wouldn't be leaving the team mid-season. I don't know the circumstances for you leaving but you can get a release from the state commissioner if the coach is not willing to issue one. ASA is Warren Jones but I'm not sure of the NSA commissioner, I think it depends on location...we always contacted Lisa Simpson.
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That is not correct for NSA. To participate in NSA you have to be added to an online NSA roster. To be eligible to play for another team in NSA, you have to be released from said roster. You can be added to another roster once the release is official and the player has been marked as released online by a state director. Once released, the player can NOT go back to the original roster for the remainder of the season (August 31).
When a player is being released from a QUALIFIED (NSA Worlds) roster, they still have release rights but can not be added to another QUALIFIED team's roster. Players who participate at the A level can also NOT be added to a B teams roster if released that season. Players who played at a higher age group and are released can be added back to the level they are eligible to play during the same season. Example: Danielle is 14 but was on a 16U roster. 16U team releases Danielle and she is eligible to go back to 14U. Qualified status would still apply here.
Also NSA does not have a place on our form to indicate if "money is owed to a coach or team organization". That is an organization/team issue and we stay out of the middle of those discussions. Circumstances can dictate someone being released by an official of NSA, but it is usually appealed to someone higher up the food chain than a state director.
Also if your sanction starts 2012OHFPXXXX, then you would contact me. 2012OHLSXXXX wouold contact Lisa Simpson.
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When a player is being released from a QUALIFIED (NSA Worlds) roster, they still have release rights but can not be added to another QUALIFIED team's roster. Players who participate at the A level can also NOT be added to a B teams roster if released that season. Players who played at a higher age group and are released can be added back to the level they are eligible to play during the same season. Example: Danielle is 14 but was on a 16U roster. 16U team releases Danielle and she is eligible to go back to 14U. Qualified status would still apply here.
Also NSA does not have a place on our form to indicate if "money is owed to a coach or team organization". That is an organization/team issue and we stay out of the middle of those discussions. Circumstances can dictate someone being released by an official of NSA, but it is usually appealed to someone higher up the food chain than a state director.
Also if your sanction starts 2012OHFPXXXX, then you would contact me. 2012OHLSXXXX wouold contact Lisa Simpson.
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Is the previous team going to play any more ASA qualifiers?
- If yes, the player release deadline is/was the roster change deadline for your association's championship - Cincy Metro, Dayton Metro or State.
- If not, your DD was automatically released from their ASA roster when they discontinued ASA championship play and is eligible as a pick-up player. Basically, teams can pick up 3 additional players from their association at the same or lower classification (i.e. can't drop down after playing up).
I just noticed an exception in the ASA Code and wonder if it would apply to Ohio.
Article 503 Pick-up Players - A. General Rule
01. The team adding pick-up players must select eligible roster members from ASA registered teams in the team?s own local association.
EXCEPTIONS:
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b. If two local associations combine berths and/or championship play, pick-up players may come from either local association with the approval of both commissioners.
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Your correct we didn't want to leave, but my daughter loves the game and Id like her to play a couple more tourneys,without the circumstances of the previous team,No money owed here,just better enviroment,Didn't think Id get a official response but thats what makes OFC great.Thanks Everyone
