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Situation - scrimmage with real, paid umps & championship game; Issue - pitcher has a piece of white tape on end of middle finger on pitching hand.
A coach says something to the umpire, between innings. The umpire replies, "Yea, I know, but it really depends on the situation & reason why she's wearing it. Now, my question, isn't any foreign object, on the pitcher's hand, considered illegal, no matter what the situation and/or reason? Is this response possibly due to it only being a scrimmage, rather than an actual game/tourney I'm just asking for clarification


I really have no idea if this umpire is correct. I am hoping Bretman can clarify. And also if there are different rules for USSSA, NSA, ASA, HS.
 
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I would say ALL associations would NOT allow anything on the hands.. no matter what the situation is.

Maybe it was just the friendlies/scrimmage type of set up and the atmosphere was relaxed for the teams. Maybe the girl had a blister and the coach needed her to get some work in... afterall it is a scrimmage.

Probally why the ump didn't enforce the situation.

A scrimmage with teams and play a championship game ? Never heard of such. Even MOST friendlies just play different teams... even if you have just 4 teams.
 
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Okay, here goes...(skip to the end for the short version :) )

High School (NFHS): The pitcher shall not at any time during the game be allowed to use tape or other substance on the ball or contact points of the pitching hand or fingers; nor shall any other player apply a foreign substance to the ball. A pitcher who licks her fingers shall wipe them off before bringing them in contact with the ball. Under the supervision and control of the umpire, powdered resin or any comparable drying agent may be used to dry the hand. The pitcher shall not wear any item on the pitching hand, wrist, arm or thighs which the umpire judges to be distracting to the batter.

ASA: A defensive player shall not at any time during the game be allowed to use any foreign substance upon the ball. Under the supervision and control of the umpire, powdered resin may be used to dry the hands. Applying resin in the glove and then placing the ball in the glove is an illegal act. Resin must be kept on the ground behind the pitcher?s plate. A pitcher who licks their fingers must wipe the fingers off before bringing them in contact with the ball. A pitcher shall not wear any item on the pitching hand, wrist, forearm, elbow or thighs, which may, in the umpire?s judgment, be distracting to the batter. Batting gloves may not be worn on the pitching hand.

USSSA: The pitcher shall not wear any item on the pitching hand, wrist, arm or thigh that the Umpire judges to be distracting. If a pitcher wears a batting helmet while on defense, the outer covering and shield shall be a nonglare surface. Foreign Substance on the ball/Items on pitcher: The pitcher shall not at any time be allowed to use any moisture or foreign substance on the ball, the pitching hand or fingers nor do anything to deface the ball. Neither shall any other player or team personnel apply moisture or a foreign substance to the ball nor do anything to deface the ball. Under the supervision and control of the Umpire, powdered resin may be on the hands to dry them. Gorilla Gold is a type of resin and is allow by USSSA Fast Pitch. The pitcher?s fingers, hand, wrist, forearm or elbow may be taped for injury, providing such tape is a neutral color.

NSA: During the game, the pitcher may not use tape or other substances on the ball, pitching hand or fingers; nor shall any player apply any foreign substance to the ball. With the umpire?s approval, powdered resin may be used to dry the hand. The wearing of any item on the pitching hand, wrist, or arm that may be distracting to the batter will not be allowed.



You can see that each sanctioning body has their own take on these rules.

NFHS prohibits tape on the hand at the "contact points" of the ball. If worn on the hand, but not at a "contact point", then the tape is at the umpire's judgment as to whether it's distracting or not.

ASA doesn't mention tape at all. ANY item worn on the pitching hand is subject to umpire judgment for being distracting.

USSSA allows tape if used due to injury. The tape must be a "neutral color".

NSA prohibits tape on the pitching hand- period.

 
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I would say ALL associations would NOT allow anything on the hands.. no matter what the situation is.

Maybe it was just the friendlies/scrimmage type of set up and the atmosphere was relaxed for the teams. Maybe the girl had a blister and the coach needed her to get some work in... afterall it is a scrimmage.

Probally why the ump didn't enforce the situation.

A scrimmage with teams and play a championship game ? Never heard of such. Even MOST friendlies just play different teams... even if you have just 4 teams.

I actually copied this off another site.

I am not really sure I understood the whole scrimmage/champ game verbage myself. Some people feel everything has to have a winner and loser.......like they are somehow achieving something at a scrimmage.

I know when we do scrimmages my wife does not even keep a book. Instead she carries a note pad. She takes notes of what has happened and such. She has also had our pitchers walk the first batter of an inning to see what will happen.......it is about getting work in and both teams working on different things. No need to keep score......all the parents are keeping track of that........LOL. I am not saying we do not play to win, but rather our goal is to play winning fastpitch softball. And to work on things to get our girls ready for the tournamnets and situations they may/will encounter and also help the team we are scrimmaging to get ready.
 
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LOL.. on the parent's keeping track of the score. Figures don't it.

Heck, I've seen them throw a runner out at first. Ask the opposing coach to leave her on base to work "situation plays" . That way your wife doesn't have to walk the batter thus allowing her to get some swings in too. Throw her out - just put her back on base with the one out.

Just odd having a championship in a "scimmage situation".

This happen in that state up North ? ;)
 
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LOL.. on the parent's keeping track of the score. Figures don't it.

Heck, I've seen them throw a runner out at first. Ask the opposing coach to leave her on base to work "situation plays" . That way your wife doesn't have to walk the batter thus allowing her to get some swings in too. Throw her out - just put her back on base with the one out.

Just odd having a championship in a "scimmage situation".

This happen in that state up North ? ;)

Yes we are "up North"........

I think the colder (???) weather creates a situation where it takes longer for peoples brains to thaw in the Spring.

We were supposed to be in a Friendly with the Hawks, Lasers Gray, and Wizards a few weeks ago. And it was set up like a tournament. I had to laugh. But some people can not help themselves. The nice thing about playing really good teams is that you can just play, the baserunners and odd situation are going to happen.;&
 
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