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Any sport, any season, indoor or out. Should it ever happen?
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Probably shouldn't happen, but I'm sure it does.
Is it appropriate/politically correct to take a Jr or Sr that was on the Varsity the year before and put her on the JV the following year? That's the only thing you could do if you have a large number of Fr coming in that are powerful players otherwise your Fr and/or JV teams are going to be better than the Varsity.
Is it appropriate/politically correct to take a Jr or Sr that was on the Varsity the year before and put her on the JV the following year? That's the only thing you could do if you have a large number of Fr coming in that are powerful players otherwise your Fr and/or JV teams are going to be better than the Varsity.
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Our Freshman sokker team beat our JV every time they would scrimmage and tied our varsity We had a policy that no Freshman played varsity this year. At the end of the season 4 Freshman were called up to play on the varsity with one that started 5 out of 7 games , since we went to the Regional finals. So yes it can and does happen. Our Freshman girls sokker team was loaded with talent and speed.
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Ohio High School General Softball Discussions,.......Is there more to this story or am I missing something?
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In theory no... but if the JV or Varsity is using it as I'm guessing it can be... a time to move girls and work them in spots less familiar... yeah very possible. Even still, the varsity should be the best the school has at nearly if not all positions. If it happened and they are playing straight up... coach may need to regroup.
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Never happens in any sport. Varsity teams are determined "In Season" and never play one another during the season. They may practice together "In Season" but I would never consider the situation to be remotely close to what a real game would be so you couldn't use it to gage who is better, or who "won." In the "Off Season" there is no Varsity or JV, only players working to make either team.
Curious to see the angle your getting at.;&
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It should never happen because the players with the top talent should be on the varsity team, unfortunately it doesn't always work that way. Alot of times the seniors make the team because they are seniors, not because they are the best players. This is when you run into JV teams that beat varsity teams, when the politics become more important than the game. It's sukks but hey, life isn't fair.
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Sorry Shane, when I was a JV coach... my team run ruled the varsity. None were called up that year yet after that year they won their conference for 3 consecutive years.
Figure it out... (yes, I coached them for those 3 years but it had nothing to do with me.... it was the talent of those special players)
Figure it out... (yes, I coached them for those 3 years but it had nothing to do with me.... it was the talent of those special players)
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Come on johnnies, I know you had a little to do with it. Talent is great but if not coached properly it will take you know where.
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Now this is not a true statement. I watched LadyKnights summer team beat the **** out of some teams, and it certainly did not have anything to do with the coach.......sorry buddie shane...lol
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Sure why not? Over the years of playing sports and coaching sports we've all beaten teams with more talent and lost to teams with less talent, just because one team is called JV and one is called Varsity makes no difference. When its game on, its game on!
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Some coaches avoid that situation.If a player hasn't made or is going to make varsity her junior year,she may be cut so as to save room on the varsity team and not giving a spot the next year to a girl because she is a senior.Start giving spots and it makes the team weaker or has a roster of 20 and half are angered parents and players who are mad about playing time.If players were cut junior year,coaches wouldn't hear the crowd grumbling but once instead of all season.Especially if this is a program that strives on wins-districts-regionals-states.
Age doesn't make the team better.A freshman class of players who have been travel players for 6 years stand a better chance at making varsity than a junior or senior who doesn't play club ball.You can take a group of 14-15 year old travel players and fair better than a group of seniors who are not stacked with travel players.
I say best address this with players and parents as freshman and let them know they will be let go if not progressing in the future.May push your players harder now than later?
Just my opinion.
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I found this in 14U Final 2009 Coaches' Poll
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Both of the teams, Doom and Lasers are tough...... I would pay the price of admission to see the outcome of that game....... playing the doom was a game our girls looked past collectivly and got bit n the butt.... some of lifes lessons are best learned the hard way
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LOL, that is what fall/winter ball is for!
Our Lasers silver (2006-07) team beat Hudson High School back in winter Spano in 2007 as 12u 7th graders. That Hudson team won the D1 State Championship later that spring, over Elyria in the Championship Game. That outcome was "good" for both our Lasers Silver 12u team, as well as the D1 State Champs Hudson High School team that winter ... for different reasons & motivations.
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Both of the teams, Doom and Lasers are tough...... I would pay the price of admission to see the outcome of that game....... playing the doom was a game our girls looked past collectivly and got bit n the butt.... some of lifes lessons are best learned the hard way
Tim
LOL, that is what fall/winter ball is for!
Our Lasers silver (2006-07) team beat Hudson High School back in winter Spano in 2007 as 12u 7th graders. That Hudson team won the D1 State Championship later that spring, over Elyria in the Championship Game. That outcome was "good" for both our Lasers Silver 12u team, as well as the D1 State Champs Hudson High School team that winter ... for different reasons & motivations.
.... any given day ....
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Work hard, play hard, be a good sport ... You Win with People
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Play the best players but give your upperclassman a chance. It's their spot to lose. If they are even talent, play the upperclassman. If frosh are hands down better, play the freshman.
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Sportsnut2 you will have an interesting situation this year, good core of Freshman coming in and possibly a new #1 on the mound or become a very strong #2. I wish you the best of luck this coming season, I think for the program it will be a good problem to have with all the young talent you have from last year and again this year. Go Vikings!! Yes JV can beat Varsity, anything could happen on any given day, but beat them consistently, NO!
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Just trying to take a different approach than the same old "politics in H.S. softball"
Softball seems to be a "also ran" sport at some high schools. Not alot of interest, makes no money and parents that have daughters that played rec ball for 5 years think their girls are studs.
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This is the way it is around our area. Rec pitchers who are mediocre at best in the rec leagues, who's parents think they should be on the olympic team. They just have no idea.
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Your head varsity coach should have been fired!!!!!!
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I don't understand this comment. There are many times it is better to keep a JV team together for future long term success then to make a short term minor improvement. It is about building a successful program and not year in year out winning.
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I totally disagree with this statement other than "If frosh are hands down better, play the freshman." I would play them both, however if they both played the same position and the only option I had was to play either or, I would play the freshman. If the freshman being 3-4yrs younger than the senior, her upside is gonna be much greater. Whereas the senior is what she is. I think thats what hinders alot of high schools from becoming a successful program. You have a freshman that is equally as talented as a senior, the senior plays. The next year you have last years junior, a senior this year, that is as good as the sophamore (the freshman that was benched last year for the senior), and so on and so on. Then when the freshman that we are originally talking about becomes a senior its her turn. Well all you have done is taken a girl with a huge upside and turned her into the same player when she's a senior as she was as a freshman. So IMHO all things being equal, I would never play the senior over the freshman that has 3 more years of upside.
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