Should girls "play up" in age?

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Thats outspoken? Mr Pigg, you asked a question AND proposed a new rule, thats not being simple. Why you being so defensive? You say in general girls are emotionally, physically, and mentally not prepared to play with girls older than their age group. You also say "I also think that the ruling organizations should have rules prohibiting players from moving to older groups!" Then you asked for our "Thoughts". I gave you mine and most replies agreed. We do not need a rule prohibiting players from moving up to older groups! I asked several times for some specifics as to why you don't want girls playing up, not generals but specifics. How about some?

There ARE girls out there who have the size, ability and maturity of girls older then themselves. If they want to play AND a team wants to select them, specifically WHY NOT? What can't a 6' tall outstanding player born on 12/31/1995 play on a team with a 5' tall average player you happened to be born one day later on 1/1/1996?

I'm asking for your thoughts and I can take your reply. Mr Pigg, you should not ask others their thoughts if you can't. JMHO

 

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Check your dates there, mustohio

Also, I'm sure some of us are thinking 12s playing up at 14 or 16, and some of us are thinking 14s or 16s playing up at 18. It's not the same at every level - especially the social aspect. As most have agreed, it's an individual thing. There are often great benefits to be had.

 

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Check your dates there, mustohio

Also, I'm sure some of us are thinking 12s playing up at 14 or 16, and some of us are thinking 14s or 16s playing up at 18. It's not the same at every level - especially the social aspect. As most have agreed, it's an individual thing. There are often great benefits to be had.

Exactly! That was my point, its an individual thing. We don't need the new rule he proposed.

Are my dates wrong. Born 12/21/1995 would play 12u while the 1/1/1995 would be 14u right?

 

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The line I'm looking at says 1/1/1996 twice

 

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How can you make it so black and white? Thats exactly why all age groups say "U". If a player is capable of playing up, then whats the problem? Coaches will be able to determine the players abilities. As far as maturity levels, I've found that players that are capable of playing up can handle those issues also. My dd was 11 this past season and played three 14u tournaments, she had no problem. Is this for everyone, no, but for players that want to take there game to a higher level and be challenged, then why deny them the oppurtunity?

 

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Thats outspoken? Mr Pigg, you asked a question AND proposed a new rule, thats not being simple. Why you being so defensive? You say in general girls are emotionally, physically, and mentally not prepared to play with girls older than their age group. You also say "I also think that the ruling organizations should have rules prohibiting players from moving to older groups!" Then you asked for our "Thoughts". I gave you mine and most replies agreed. We do not need a rule prohibiting players from moving up to older groups! I asked several times for some specifics as to why you don't want girls playing up, not generals but specifics. How about some?

There ARE girls out there who have the size, ability and maturity of girls older then themselves. If they want to play AND a team wants to select them, specifically WHY NOT? What can't a 6' tall outstanding player born on 12/31/1995 play on a team with a 5' tall average player you happened to be born one day later on 1/1/1996?

I'm asking for your thoughts and I can take your reply. Mr Pigg, you should not ask others their thoughts if you can't. JMHO

Yes I do think you're very outspoken with this topic. You have nearly 25% of the posts. The questions I posed were rhetorical. I also said that I feel through the ages of 15-16 kids shouldn't play up.

I welcome your comments. I was President for 10 years of a SW Ohio youth organization that sported nearly 850 players. There are many issues about kids playing up. The most pressing is insurance liability issues. If a player is hurt, will the insurance cover a player in an older age group.

 

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[/QUOTE] I welcome your comments. I was President for 10 years of a SW Ohio youth organization that sported nearly 850 players. There are many issues about kids playing up. The most pressing is insurance liability issues. If a player is hurt, will the insurance cover a player in an older age group. [/QUOTE]


I think that there are many reasons why moving a player up may or may not be good for them. I personally see nothing wrong with it if the player has the skill level. Over the years I have seen plenty of players who were more then capable. Having said that I think that it is not for every player even if they are capable pyhsically. A 13 year old playing up at 16U with a group of young ladies that are in some cases 17 years old may expose her to some converstations and things that she may not be ready for. Again this is best addressed on a case bay case basis. In no way would I ever support a rule change to keep it from happening.

Two things I notice from the quote above are 1) If this were a Rec organization then I could see where a rule might be in place to discourage it.
2) I am not aware of any such insurance issues. Every insurance company that provides insurance for travel teams does so with no such stipulation. Every one that I have ever seen clearly labels the coverage by age group such as 16U (which means everyone under the age of 17 years old). There is no place where they draw the line, pretty much the "U" under covers that.

Just my two cents.

 

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If they have the skills to play up let them. As far as the topics disscussed in the dug out they are disscussed at school, on the bus, and everywhere teenagers hang out. I know 13 year olds that are more mature than some 16-17 year olds. The only thing is that socially they may not hang if your dd is 14 playing with 16-17 and that may not be a bad thing.

 

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as a player... playing up is not that bad... it helps you realize your strengths and weaknesses. never done it myself... ive always been w the others. some gurls also just mature faster and need a different enviorment to play their game, ex. one girl might not care if win or lose, but another(older) might want to win...it might help u play up 2 ur potential if u play w older girls

 

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Tournament ball our dd stays with her age.
League ball she plays up.