Spano Results 10u/12u

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how about the 10s any results there?
Congrats to Clark and his girls as well as the Spirit team. knew it would be a good matchup.

 

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Sounds like a great tournament. I am surprised that they used the book for a championship game though instead of ITB. Congrats to both teams.

 

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?10u Championship game ?

? ? ? ? ? ? Central Ohio Stingrays ?- 6

? ? ? ? ? ? Valley Extreme -5

Both teams had great pitching and hit the ball well.

 

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Although my DD was not in this tournament, we went and watched some great games today. It was just nice to see the teams in action, the off season can seem too long at times. Congrats to all of the teams that gave it their all today.

 

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It appears that by an eyelash in the book the spanodome doesnt have to be known as the spirit dome just yet,mikemavs to bad you didn't get to meet up with the spirit like you wanted better luck next tourney.

 

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Congrats Stingray 10s!!!! You have gotten off to a great start this season, keep up the good work!
Joni

Looks like this summer will be filled with alot of borderline competition in both 10s and 12s. This is great for all of us, can't wait for spring to get here.

 

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Seeing that those are the rules for the whole tournament, I would think a little concentration on getting runners to second and third would be a wise idea, if not always (lots easier to get runners home from second or third than first, obviously).

How is flipping a coin more fair than what they're using? ?At least the on-base tool measures an accomplishment. ?To send a team home on a coin-flip is much more ridiculous, to me.

And, regarding your other message, to say "they gave the Ice the win" sounds poor-sportish. ?Sounds like it was a very close game, but the Ice edged it out and earned their win.

the game was tied at the end---there should have been another inning played...the object of the game is to score runs...not neccessarly advance the most people to first/second/third base etc..i know the spano dome had to run a tight schedule but it was the quarterfinals and a last inning would not have taken long.....the same exact scenario happened in the championship...seeing as how there were no more games, they should have went into extra innings to give the spirit and ice both fair chances of winning....but if you did that, then that wouldn't be fair to the power...which is why it gets confusing ???

 

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Just wanted to say congrads to 12U Ice . Great job to you and your girls Clark . Good luck to all team in the up and coming season .

 

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Okay, okay, okay - check this out, for "tiebreaker" drama.

Last year in the 10u tournament following the indoor season, we lost early and ended up in the loser bracket, and had to win 4 back to back games on Sunday, two straight versus the undefeated team. We made it to the final after a LONG morning, and with the tourney championship and a single NSA World Series birth on the line (HIGH DRAMA for our baby 10u's),

1. we were tied after regulation
2. we were tied after counting runners to third
3. we were tied after counting runners to second
4. we were tied after counting runners to reach base

5. The LAST tiebreaker involved the two head coaches standing at home plate and simultaneously rolling a softball towards 2nd base (bowling style), ... closest to the base won the game. I guess in a century gone by, it might have been pistols, ... or swords?

It took approximately an hour to get to that momentous moment, after counting, recounting, a phone call to the NSA, and a little shouting, etc. The whole time the girls of BOTH teams who had just left it all on the field were doing chants and cheers together, actually becoming friends, while us adults were duking it out over rules and yelling at each other. It was quite a sight to behold. Our team won that tiebreaker, but we gained so much respect for each other in the process that begged them to offer co-awards for qualifying, which I believe NSA did offer. Later we learned it wouldn't be that hard to qualify, we both had solid teams, but at the time it was crazy.

The girls taught us a lot though with the way they handled things, and after all, THEY were the ones who played the game.

 

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I dont mean to drag this issue out but the tournament rules are given out long before the games are played, and all teams play by the same set of rules.

That being said, I do find it odd that the championship game was played with a time limit. Most tournaments my daughter's team has been involved in have time limits for pool and elimination games but not the championship.

Either way, congrats to the Ice for winning the tourney, sounds like the teams were very competitive.

 

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Just wanted to say congrats 2 the Ohio Ice...im glad the Power had a chance to play your team--its always a good game when our teams play and I kno this year we will see you in a few other tournaments. ?Good luck to you this year ;D ?See ya in other tournaments!!

 

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I seen that last year at the Spano Dome and to this day is the most unusual way I have ever seen a game decided. My question is, who decided to decide it that way? Was it in the rules or did NSA have any say so?

 

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Okay, okay, okay - check this out, for "tiebreaker" drama.

Last year in the 10u tournament following the indoor season, we lost early and ended up in the loser bracket, and had to win 4 back to back games on Sunday, two straight versus the undefeated team. We made it to the final after a LONG morning, and with the tourney championship and a single NSA World Series birth on the line (HIGH DRAMA for our baby 10u's),

1. we were tied after regulation
2. we were tied after counting runners to third
3. we were tied after counting runners to second
4. we were tied after counting runners to reach base

5. The LAST tiebreaker involved the two head coaches standing at home plate and simultaneously rolling a softball towards 2nd base (bowling style), ... closest to the base won the game. I guess in a century gone by, it might have been pistols, ... or swords?

It took approximately an hour to get to that momentous moment, after counting, recounting, a phone call to the NSA, and a little shouting, etc. The whole time the girls of BOTH teams who had just left it all on the field were doing chants and cheers together, actually becoming friends, while us adults were duking it out over rules and yelling at each other. It was quite a sight to behold. Our team won that tiebreaker, but we gained so much respect for each other in the process that begged them to offer co-awards for qualifying, which I believe NSA did offer. Later we learned it wouldn't be that hard to qualify, we both had solid teams, but at the time it was crazy.

The girls taught us a lot though with the way they handled things, and after all, THEY were the ones who played the game.

that's absurd to decided a game by who can roll a ball from home plate to second base the closest...wow

 

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I don't think the "runners on base" tie breaker is necessarily a good ?one in general, but the thought of games extending and the schedule getting backed up in an indoor tournament is not a good thought at all - not really a consideration, as far as I'm concerned (even on Sunday).

Either way, those are ?the rules they have and there was no secret about it (games in earlier weekends were decided on the same set of rules). ?These indoor tournaments have great value for tune-ups, but it's not at all like playing outside, and any of the teams in the semis with close scores should feel they had a good weekend. ?And now, off to school ball.

 

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Yeah, on the "bowling for champioships" tiebreaker thing, I believe it was indeed in the book, although at first we thought it would be a coin toss. They really had to dust off the rule book and dig deep though, back to pages written during the Civil War I believe. Both teams BEGGED for another inning instead, but it was not to be - I believe there was a game backing up to us which prevented the possibility.

It sure was a helpless feeling watching those two softballs roll in sloooooooooow moooooootion out towards 2nd base, but the rules are the rules I guess.

 

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'nuff said about the tiebreaker procedures at the Spano. The bottom line is their was no winner in the championship game. The Ice was awarded 1st place on a technicality ( which they earned according to the rules ) after tieing the Spirit team in regulation. It must have been an exciting game to watch ....... two good teams who both should be applauded for their performance. So congratulations to the Ice and the Spirit teams for reaching the championship game and good luck to both in the coming season.

 

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It's "Dome Ball" for crying out loud! Every year there is so much drama about the rules of the Dome. If you don't like 'em, don't play there. Frank and Vito have worked hard to put this place together for us, lets all be glad it's here and not having to drive hours to play on concrete or astro turf!
'nuff said! :-X

 

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Everyone knows the rules when you enter, but teams are entered. Like them or not they have to have rules, that is life.

I have had to in the past, after score was tied and time getting close, concentrate on advancing runners more than going for the hit to drive runs in, because that was the tie breaking rule. I knew it.

Not to throw the thinking in a loop but thinking from a coaches perspective going by "most runners on third" is silly. As a coach I get totally frustrated during the season of advancing more runners to scoring position than my opponent and still losing the game.

This throws several flags to me:
1. we have too many holes in our line up to produce runs
2. we are making baserunning errors and not taking advantage of every opportunity to score
3. our ability to advance runners needs improvement
4. our opponent is better than we are at preventing the score
5. our opponent's pitcher is better than our ability to hit that game
6. we are giving up too many runs defensively to our opponents

If I stranded so many girls on base, something is wrong or someone is better.

This is not to take anything away from anyone in the tournament or that anyone is better, just the difference between indoor and outdoor games, and just one coach's opinion.

I know the Spirit, Power, and Ice teams and expected it to be a very competitive tournament come Sunday. (other coaches don't get upset if I didn't mention you, I just am more familiar with these three teams) - how was that Johnnies???

It will be a great summer along the border, that is great for all of us to have more competition in our back yards.

 

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The Spano Dome does a fantastic job of giving kids the opportunity to play indoors during the winter months and that in itself is priceless here in beautiful Northeast Ohio. Keep up the good work there. You must be doing something right to have the great turn out of teams every year.

 

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The tournament is over and it was played and decided by the rules that each coach was aware of going in.

It sounds like sour grapes to continue to complain about rules and procedures that were fully know to everyone. If the rules were made on the fly... then some valid points of contention could have been raised - However that was NOT the case.

My suggestion - if you don't like it play elsewhere but I will tell you that you would be hard pressed to find an indoor as good as the one in Spano Dome. Now that everyone has been educated and informed... next year there should be no posts concerning tie breakers. Now - don't you think you beat this horse a little longer than necessary?

It is OVER. What are you going to complain about next summer - time limits, beeing in strong pools, seeding process? If you are - you might want to consider soccer.