Total lack of class!

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Some people forget that it is about the kids. This subject opens so many doors of discussion it's hard to know where to begin. Many are frustrated by this time of the season because they are not seeing enough positive results. Everyone made a conscious decision to join the team you?re on for the season. Let me remind you of a few certain facts:

For whatever the circumstances, as a coach you have a roster of young ladies looking up to you for guidance. Maybe you analyzed the there potential incorrectly, or maybe a girl or 2 has other issues she could use some counseling about. Maybe for the first time you've realized you have a kid that simply doesn't learn the game at the same speed as others due to a learning disability. Perhaps a player or 2 are having a change of heart about playing softball. For whatever the reason, you owe it to each girl to help them thru the tough times and continue to mentor the entire team.

A quick fix by many coaches is to replace weaker players with somebody else's talent. Is this truly what you signed up to do? Many coaches are parents with sugarplums dancing in their heads as they dream of their daughter on the ultimate team with them at the reigns. Everyone wants to win and compete like ASU did this year. Just remember, they were not the top dog last year nor did they go during the off-season to 'Bama or Fla. to get players. They developed their own from their own talent pool. Ask yourself the question: ?Am I doing this for the right reasons and is the entire team wrong or is it my coaching abilities?? A good rule for coaches to remember is for every finger you point at someone for being the problem there?s a thumb pointing back at you. Make sure you dissect your involvement as to why the team is having issues before casting any blame.

As for parents that are not coaches; you chose the team at some point for a reason. Perhaps the results up till now have not met your expectations. Before you judge the team and its leaders, be sure you look deep inside yourself and make an honest assessment of your own involvement as well as your child. Have you been supportive of the program or are you constantly belittling the methods being used by the coaching staff? Don?t you see what kind of negative effect this has on your daughter if you are constantly judging the coach anywhere that your child can hear or see? If you are so sure you?re right and they are wrong, why didn?t you host tryouts and commit to lead a team and their families? Maybe your attitude supporting a staff of volunteers that hopefully have your daughter?s best interest at heart would change her attitude towards the entire experience.

Watch out what you hope for because it might leave you out instead of in. Every team has a depth chart of talent. Some have it on paper while others simply file it in their minds. There is always somebody better somewhere out there. If you believe everyone would benefit from replacing a few weak links on your roster, watch out that your daughter doesn?t become the girl at the bottom of the list and expendable.

If you are questioning your playing time, be sure to practice away from the team. Earn the right----don?t buy it. Perhaps you?ve realized that in the big picture your daughter simply doesn?t have the same level of talent as the teammates around her. You can either work harder to improve or know next season to shop for a team she has a better opportunity to play with. Running away with a bad attitude will not teach your child how to deal with real life. Changing your perspective and attitude will help everyone accept realistic expectations.

Very well stated.

 

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daboos has good points about players concerned about playing time but girls/families can be unhappy with their team for many other reasons. The team's commitment to developing, practicing and strength of schedule are some. If a player doesn't feel they can develop with a team that takes a lackadaisical approach to practicing and playing then they might be better off going to another team.

 

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As stated in the original post, approaching the player's parents was bad enough, but to attack coaches on a professional and personal level at the same time is just something I have never seen or heard of. Some of the comments made by this coach were unbelievable.

In my opinion, this individual does not need to be coaching at any level if this is the kind of example he sets, and I am surprised that the organization he represents tolerates this kind of behavior.

 

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As stated in the original post, approaching the player's parents was bad enough, but to attack coaches on a professional and personal level at the same time is just something I have never seen or heard of. Some of the comments made by this coach were unbelievable.

In my opinion, this individual does not need to be coaching at any level if this is the kind of example he sets, and I am surprised that the organization he represents tolerates this kind of behavior.

contact the org and tell them. Most of the time "leaders of the org's" don't find out till much later. I can assure you of that.

We get approached quite often and always tell parents/players to watch our website for dates for upcoming tryouts. We won't say much more than that and never bash. I will say it's hard at times because some parents know how to talk you into divulging more and you just have to stick to your guns (or at least I do). I have gone on record many times about how stern of a stance we take on this. It's not right, never will be, and that's just common decency and respect of others hard work. Stealing is stealing and the only place I know stealing is ok is on the basketball court and base paths. Come mid August, the season is over and tryouts/recruiting is a must. Wait your turn... do what's right... and keep it clean. I have yet to even remotely consider poaching for when it's happened to me I get 'madder than a skunk':lmao:. Maybe if the encroaching coach has any true coaching skills it will work out on it's own. I guess this "could" be self explanatory :cap:.

Now... if borrowing a player is the issue... simple to manage, contact the other coach first and then let them aid in your issue.

 

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Some people forget that it is about the kids. This subject opens so many doors of discussion it's hard to know where to begin. Many are frustrated by this time of the season because they are not seeing enough positive results. Everyone made a conscious decision to join the team you?re on for the season. Let me remind you of a few certain facts:

For whatever the circumstances, as a coach you have a roster of young ladies looking up to you for guidance. Maybe you analyzed the there potential incorrectly, or maybe a girl or 2 has other issues she could use some counseling about. Maybe for the first time you've realized you have a kid that simply doesn't learn the game at the same speed as others due to a learning disability. Perhaps a player or 2 are having a change of heart about playing softball. For whatever the reason, you owe it to each girl to help them thru the tough times and continue to mentor the entire team.

A quick fix by many coaches is to replace weaker players with somebody else's talent. Is this truly what you signed up to do? Many coaches are parents with sugarplums dancing in their heads as they dream of their daughter on the ultimate team with them at the reigns. Everyone wants to win and compete like ASU did this year. Just remember, they were not the top dog last year nor did they go during the off-season to 'Bama or Fla. to get players. They developed their own from their own talent pool. Ask yourself the question: ?Am I doing this for the right reasons and is the entire team wrong or is it my coaching abilities?? A good rule for coaches to remember is for every finger you point at someone for being the problem there?s a thumb pointing back at you. Make sure you dissect your involvement as to why the team is having issues before casting any blame.

As for parents that are not coaches; you chose the team at some point for a reason. Perhaps the results up till now have not met your expectations. Before you judge the team and its leaders, be sure you look deep inside yourself and make an honest assessment of your own involvement as well as your child. Have you been supportive of the program or are you constantly belittling the methods being used by the coaching staff? Don?t you see what kind of negative effect this has on your daughter if you are constantly judging the coach anywhere that your child can hear or see? If you are so sure you?re right and they are wrong, why didn?t you host tryouts and commit to lead a team and their families? Maybe your attitude supporting a staff of volunteers that hopefully have your daughter?s best interest at heart would change her attitude towards the entire experience.

Watch out what you hope for because it might leave you out instead of in. Every team has a depth chart of talent. Some have it on paper while others simply file it in their minds. There is always somebody better somewhere out there. If you believe everyone would benefit from replacing a few weak links on your roster, watch out that your daughter doesn?t become the girl at the bottom of the list and expendable.

If you are questioning your playing time, be sure to practice away from the team. Earn the right----don?t buy it. Perhaps you?ve realized that in the big picture your daughter simply doesn?t have the same level of talent as the teammates around her. You can either work harder to improve or know next season to shop for a team she has a better opportunity to play with. Running away with a bad attitude will not teach your child how to deal with real life. Changing your perspective and attitude will help everyone accept realistic expectations.

That's what I'm talking about, awesome post Daboss!!!

 

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Let me change subjects a second... with ASA - I keep hearing about a 'release' - I don't see where that applies - can someone point me to the ASA rules for that... also I see there is a standard and championship roster .. can someone clarify the difference?

Basically, a team/coach turns in their roster to ASA online (assuming they get the ASA insurance) and sanction.

But a player is not locked to a roster until they play in a tourney. As I understand it - players are 'locked' to a roster at each level and can go up a level with another team but not down or sideways...

for example - when a team plays in an ENQ the 'championship' roster they submit for the tourney locks those girls to that team for all future ENQ's - the girls can not play in another regional qualifer with another team. BUT they can go play in a National Qualifer with another team .. once they do that - they can't play in any nat q's except with that team. BUT - they can go up and play in a ENQ with the next age .. and the process starts all over. If a team qualifies for a berth and accepts - those kids on the roster when they qualified can only play at that level tourney (Eastern, Northern,National) with the TEAM they qualified with.

Once the roster is submitted and they tourney played - they are locked - there is no releasing the player by the team/coach - what is done is done. When our pitcher exited our team - the new team coach called me asking for her release (which btw - we are totally fine with - we want her to go play somewhere and be happy. Some folks asked if she was 'stolen' and the answer is no, it was one of those times when it was best for all to get a clean break and fresh start). I did go online and and remove her from our roster and we will not have her on any roster we turn in the rest of the year - but since she was on our day/metro roster she is ineligible to play in any ENQ or Nat Q with her new team - right? I would hate to mess this up for her or us.

Does my logic sound right?

Doug: I spoke to Warren Jones beginning of this season and your comments spell out EXACTLY what he told me. Since my conversation with him, one of our own players played in a National Qualifier then quit to join her old team. It is my understanding that this player is now ineligible to play with her current team. I have left several messages with Warren Jones to get a clarification ... he has not returned a call. Very frustrating because we are trying to fill our open spot and do not want to find ourselves playing with an ineligible player.

 

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OK, so with all the above stated... who is going to be first with their 2012 tryout schedule.....

 

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OK, so with all the above stated... who is going to be first with their 2012 tryout schedule.....

You joke about it but we have one organization in MN that routinely has April/May and June tryouts for their next years teams and takes deposits mid season for the following season even if you aren't playing for them in this season.

 

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OK, so with all the above stated... who is going to be first with their 2012 tryout schedule.....

I have already seen a northern Ohio team post their tryout date on OFC.

It was a couple of days ago matter of fact.

 

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bet they were from stark co.

 

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bet they were from stark co.

:lmao: still funny

 

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**cough** **cough**

 

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**cough** **cough**

Thats why your post number is so high lol

 

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I see nothing wrong with this...... Well thats just me!

 

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Bear you need to do something about that cough...Dan the pharmacist could fix it. hehe

 

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Why not name names here? Someone who does this obviously won't have the decency, class, or sense to read the post by Daboss and see himself and change. This person must be shamed into changing his behavior. I really don't understand why people insist on protecting the guilty.

 

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Not hard to figure out.

As a organization they have a long history of doing this kind of stuff.

 

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Why not name names here? Someone who does this obviously won't have the decency, class, or sense to read the post by Daboss and see himself and change. This person must be shamed into changing his behavior. I really don't understand why people insist on protecting the guilty.

Naming teams or individuals too often leads to someone trying to do a drive by or using the privilege to satisfy a grudge and hide behind an alias. So its better for everyone if we don't name names.

 

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A well known SW Ohio Team coach has been texting certain players about jumping ship. I am gonna call him out if it doesn't stop.
The dad's are getting pretty mad, not a joke any more.

I will somehow make the organization and coach known.

Going after a player mid season is bush league.

 

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Popcorn time...:cap: