USSSA Tournament USSSA Nationals (lets be honest)

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Lets be honest here! Is there any reason for the USSSA Nationals at any age group? Seriously and I'm speaking the serious softballers if a fellow softballer asked you where your team was going for nationals and you were going to USSSA Nationals would you have the nerve to tell them? We allways hear stories every year about the team or teams that dont think their team should do nationals.....Well if your team is doing USSSA Nationals it just might be your team!:lmao:

Just out of couriousity where would the teams that win this tournament finish in the ASA Nationals in their respective age group!;&

 

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Scott,

I will be honest with you. Next year, buy a SW Airlines ticket and fly down here in late July. Sit and watch a few games. You will walk away (or be driven in a "courtesy cart") with your answer. I have spent all of my time here watching game after game (I have not been to any parks) The talent here is excellent. You know me well enough that I do not BS. There are teams here that would excel in any venue. The days when one could say - "only the talented go to...." has really faded. The explosion of talented teams have crossed the borders. I have seen team in Orlando that would rival any I've seen to date. It is rapidly coming to the point that ASA will be challenged.

Scott, you will have to trust me here. I do not post this lightly. I have been to every venue. Do not take USSSA with a grain of salt.

 

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I am with you Johnnies, Last year we played some very good teams in Columbus, Indiana. As good as any we faced in any ASA or NSA tournaments.
I think there are so many young teams / organizations that are getting their feet wet that all sanctions have the ability to have some strong teams.

From experience, we have seen that just because an organization is new or young, no longer means they cannot put an A$$ Whoopin on some long standing organizations.

The old days of looking at a T-shirt team and throwing your #4 pitcher against them are over in my opinion. Lots of new players looking for more playing time are helping to "Spread the wealth" in some cases.

No longer is a 10 year organization looked upon as the "Big Dawg".

The phrase "Any Given Day" means more now than ever in my opinion.

 

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Now I see why your name is in pink. Just can't help yourself.

 

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I agree with you Rob, any given day.....

Jim McDaniel

 

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Yes I cant help myself...that's why I have a PO!

I'm still standing by my post Johnnies maybe the games seem exciting because the teams are just evenly matched? Doesn't necessarily mean they are strong teams? No personal attack on you Jimmy or your team I just find it hard to believe NSA along with USSSA are producing powerhouse teams.;&

 

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Becareful Mr. Cilenti your DD may be playing USSSA next year

 

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Becareful Mr. Cilenti your DD may be playing USSSA next year

Most who know me know I am one for not being careful....Hence the PINK!!!

But I'm confident next season USSSA isn't a reality! Its that substance one Pirate looks to find in a treasure chest.......

 

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I am going to have to stick up with Scott. We may have different opinions but that doesn't make his thoughts wrong... or right. It is his honest thoughts and I expect nothing less. I do hope he takes me up on my offer to take a trip. Scott, you will be surprised. At least you could say... I am going to Disney World.

 

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I am going to have to stick up with Scott. We may have different opinions but that doesn't make his thoughts wrong... or right. It is his honest thoughts and I expect nothing less. I do hope he takes me up on my offer to take a trip. Scott, you will be surprised. At least you could say... I am going to Disney World.

If those are his honest thoughts then he is an elitist snob. I guess those would be my honest thoughts.

ASA may have the best teams. But to cut on YOUTH teams for the World Series they choose to attend is pretty classless.

And no I have never been to a USSSA World Series but I respect those YOUTH teams who have the pride to go and challenge themselves at one.

 

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Scott, I am going to politely yet vigorously disagree with you. My team's schedule this summer has been pretty much 1/2 ASA, 1/2 USSSA for the most part. We fared just as well at ASA events as we did USSSA. No better, no worse. And it may (or may not) surprise you to hear that we are seeing essentially the SAME teams at ASA events that we are seeing at USSSA events. And these teams fare well in BOTH associations. I agree with what someone said above, that it no longer means what it used to mean to play a strictly ASA schedule. If my team received a bid to USSSA Nat's, we'd go in a second and be pleased as heck to have the chance. Just my 2cents.

 

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That they do... honestly. I will say that. Scott, come down here next year (for a vacation?). You will leave with a different thought pattern.

 

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I am not sticking up for Scott. However I believe that ASA "True" Nationals does offer the best overall Competition. I will also say that I have no problem with "so-called" weaker National tournaments. I do not agree with knocking the other associations National Tournaments. I will say that the college coaches go to 16U Nationals for a reason. That?s where the best are playing or they would not be there.

My DD had the chance to play one of the top programs in the country in front of 40 college coaches. ie.....Arkansas,Belmont,Nebraska,North Carolina,Oklahoma,Cal Poly,Louisville,Wisconsin,Illinois, Indiana, Iowa ect.... There is no other association that would have put my DD in front of this many coaches.

 

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One thing for sure is that USSSA does support the Rec leagues where NSA and ASA focus on select levels in this area. So does this mean that the average player is working at a slower pace? I would say yes just because there are more players in USSSA, and a lot of them are first and second year players. Just think about where would those players be without USSSA playing sokker or some other generic sport. As for the travel tournaments we have faced the same teams in all three and the competition is just as fierce in USSSA as in ASA.

 

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If those are his honest thoughts then he is an elitist snob. I guess those would be my honest thoughts.

ASA may have the best teams. But to cut on YOUTH teams for the World Series they choose to attend is pretty classless.

And no I have never been to a USSSA World Series but I respect those YOUTH teams who have the pride to go and challenge themselves at one.

Let's not make this into a a personal attack thread or others may be looking a little pink also. If you don't agree with his opinion feel free to point out the errors in his assumptions, but please do it on the non-emotional level.

 

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Scott

I believe ASA nationals are still the "Creme de la Creme" of fastpitch softball. However, the quality of USSSA tournaments are creeping up very quickly.

For the longest time USSSA focused on slow pitch softball. Not until recently have they put more focus on fastpitch. Many teams around here (Greater Cincinnati) play both ASA and USSSA tournaments. I have more of a problem with USSSA umpiring than I do the quality of USSSA tournaments. I do believe you would change your mind if you attended a USSSA national. It won't be long before USSSA becomes ASA's equal if they continue their fastpitch focus.

Len

 

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Let's not make this into a a personal attack thread or others may be looking a little pink also. If you don't agree with his opinion feel free to point out the errors in his assumptions, but please do it on the non-emotional level.

Lets be honest here, the only reason for his post was to cut on everyone who wasnt able to go to ASA Nationals. I see no value in that. Especially when we are talking about YOUTH teams.

 

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There isnt any doubt that the ASA/USA Nationals are quite a bit tougher then any other Nationals. I think the ASA Regional Nationals this year has quite a list of teams as well. However, since most of us use softball as our vacation, if ASA/USA Nationals were being held in Moose Jaw, Montana and a team chose to go USSSA Nationals in Disney World, I really cant fault them lol.

When was the last time you heard of a team flying in from California or Arizona to a small tournament in Ohio to qualify for a USSSA tourney? USSSA hands our their bids like a chinese resturant hands out menus. So Yes ASA Nationals are much tougher, but I still think there are some very good teams at USSSA nationals.

 

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Bear ... with all due respect because you do a fantastic job of moderating this board, the posters here are responding to an attack by the original poster who seems to feel the need to degrade others on a regular basis. If you'd like, I can quote about a half dozen or so of these kinds of posts. You can't expect responses to be non-emotional when someone makes fun of their kids, schools or travel organizations.

 

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Tact may not be Scott's strongest trait, but let's try to separate that from the question being asked which when paraphrased could read like:

Where does USSSA Nationals rank in relation to ASA or other sanctioning bodies, and should a top tier team consider it as an option?
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