Bucket Dad Syndrome

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This was written by Hal Skinner. I drug it over here from another site.

'BUCKET DAD' SYNDROME ? 1999,2001

You are the parent of a young pitcher. Whether you are the Mom or the Dad you are the one with the flat round behind that looks just like the lid of a five gallon bucket.

You are a "Bucket Dad" or maybe even a "Bucket Mom".

At some point in your young pitcher's career you will face the same problem as what surely must be the majority of young pitcher's parents out there have to face.

All of a sudden, for seemingly no reason at all, your kid will not want to work on their pitching with you anymore.

They will throw their heart out for their professional pitching coach and work hard at their team practices throwing to the other coaches or catchers. However, when it's the middle of the week and time for you to break out that bucket and glove, all of a sudden they don't want to and they make it very obvious they don't want to.

You might look at it as a rebellion and deal with it as such. You pretty much drag them to the park and force them to throw whether they want to or not. That can get very unpleasant.

You sit in your easy chair at night and try to figure out how this sweet kid of yours could just abandon you when it comes to her pitching effort. After all you did to get her started, those hundreds of hours trying to hatch that bucket. Rearranging your schedule to get her to the pitching instructor and all the money you spent. She doesn't appreciate one little bit of it.

Being tossed aside like last year's batting glove can break your heart, if you don't know it's coming. At some point, this WILL happen, to some varied extent.

This is the "Bucket Dad" syndrome and it is seldom recognized in the initial stages. I have seen it drive some pretty big wedges between a parent and a their young pitcher.

Let's look at it from a different perspective.

Do you remember when your young pitcher was real little? Remember when you got her that very first bicycle? Remember those training wheels you put on it? When she was real little she loved the bike and did not mind the training wheels at all. She knew that those training wheels provided support, a sense of

security and without them, she would fall flat on her face in her efforts.

As soon as she got a little experience under her belt, she wanted those training wheels off. She wanted to prove to you, herself and everyone else watching that she did not need them anymore. She graduated up to riding without her training wheels, just like the big kids do. When you took them off and she tried it for the first time without them, you still ran along beside her with your arms out, just in case. This was a very huge step for her, for you too, that's why you broke out the camera.

Well, guess what? As far as her pitching career goes, you are her training wheels. You got her started. You gave her confidence and a sense of security. You were there to make sure she didn't fall flat on her face in her efforts. Now, she wants to graduate up to pitching without the training wheels.

You probably were not comfortable with the idea of her riding that bike with no training wheels. You probably thought she wasn't ready yet and you were worried she might fall flat on her face. When it comes to her pitching, she is ready to prove to you, herself and everyone watching that she can do it, all by herself, without those training wheels. She is ready to take that step up, whether you are ready or not.

She has a pitching coach. In her mind that coach is the highest authority of anything having to do with her pitching. Any coaching input offered from anyone else is coming from a lesser source and will be treated as such, even if it is from coach Dad.

She still needs to throw between sessions and you are her catcher. So, fill the role that is needed. Be her catcher but don't be her coach when she is throwing to you while you are sitting on that bucket. Your help is far more likely to be accepted when you approach it as her catcher and not her coach.

When something doesn't go quite right, don't tell her what to do to fix it, ask her what to do. Ask her what just happened, what went wrong. Make her think.

Make her make the decisions and let her be her own pitching coach. Let her be the authority and put her knowledge to the test just like she is testing her physical ability.

If she runs into something she can't figure out she will turn to you for an opinion and when she does, give it to her. Don't tell her what to do, let the decision be hers but make the right suggestions.

Many parents can never reach the point that they stop trying to run alongside their kids to catch them if they should fall. You can hear them doing it from on top of buckets, from the dugouts, from the sidelines and you can hear them doing it from the stands too.

Understand and watch for the "Bucket Dad" syndrome. It can sometimes disguise itself and even infect kids playing other sports besides softball.
 
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Dead on!!! I eventually learned this!!! I sure wish I had thought of it that way , a long time ago. That is so true about life and kids in general. It's hard to let that girl be her own woman. Apply that to why she don't want help with math, advise about relationships, and so on. The bucket dad analogy sums it up quite well. Any new parents , read and heed!!! It sure will help you stay relevant if you know your role and know when to just step back and smile about a job well done!!
 
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Thankfully, my role as a "team" coach lead me to the realization that many of the players have hitting coaches and all of the pitchers have pitching coaches. As the girls get older and start competing at a higher level, the team coach's role changes to more of a team manager than an individual coach. (It also didn't hurt that I gave up my "head" coaching gig and assist.) Now, I ask, "what does your hitting/pitching coach say about...?" Having made that change, it was easy to do that with the DD and therefore was able to avoid the pitfall. Thank goodness, she is still the one pushing me to get my bucket out!
 
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Thanks for taking the time to put into words what some may have known but many more would never admit...........till they read your thread. Great work!!!
 
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Nicely stated.

I was always reminding myself "Just be a catcher" during Louuuuuise's pitching days. But I saw many other Bucket Dads who felt the need to spew forth some pitching advice after every pitch. Really? There comes a time during each girl's development where she's throwing fast enough that if you're looking for mechanics, instead of concentrating on that optic yellow projectile heading for your shins, you're going to be rolling on the ground in pain soon. Catch, throw back, repeat ...
 
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I have to say, I couldn't wait for that day to come. I wasn't mad at all when she wanted to only pitch to her catchers, it was awesome for me. I have enough bone fragments floating around in my shin area that I have no problem letting someone with catching gear take the reins.
 
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The following quote from this EXCELLENT post applies to not only softball, but life in general:
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Many parents can never reach the point that they stop trying to run alongside their kids to catch them if they should fall. You can hear them doing it from on top of buckets, from the dugouts, from the sidelines and you can hear them doing it from the stands too.
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Priceless! This affliction is closely related to "Rose Colored Glasses Syndrome".

I remember back when my DD was about 8 - 10 years old. We were carring groceries into the house, when she stopped at the door in front of me, hands full with a couple of bags in her arms. She looked at me, expecting me to open the door for her. I just stood there (being mean) staring back at her. She finally said Daaaad! Open the door for me!! I replied "Open it yourself"! She said "I can't - my arms are full". So... teaching moment. I demonstrated how to sit the bags down, open the door, keep your back against it, pick up the bags... etc. etc.

Now, I could have simply reached out and politely opened the door for her. I could have carried her bat bag at the fields. Her mom & I could have waited on her hand and foot - catering to her every whim (like I have seen many parents do with their daughters over many summers). Actually, I think we "spoiled" ours fairly well. Looking back, I do not regret those being mean moments at all.

Thanks for posting this crystlmc. It put into words a very important lesson for parents to learn.
 
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I just sit and watch while my pitcher/daughter pitches and my catcher daughter catches. That seems to work fine for all concerned. Actually, the pivotal moment for us came when we all acknowledged that she would hold back a little bit so she didn't hurt her old dad. While I appreciated her concern, we knew that my days catching her were over. We use the same arrangement for lessons, so pitcher, catcher and pitching coach can work on problems together. Again, I just watch....
 
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I recognized very early on that if was catching I couldn't coach a pitcher. You might be able to say something useful when the ball is coming in at 35 but at 55 with movement not getting hurt is very high on my list. At those speeds you can not watch her arm (or anything else) AND the ball at the same time. Bucket dads that keep on talking... are just making it up and not saying much that is useful. You can tell her what you saw the ball do, but that is about it.

I have raised two daughters and sent them off to college. I still get to catch the younger one on breaks and we reconnect. ( the older has graduated and moved on to her life's work) Both of us look forward to our time... but I catch and she pitches. When she needs instruction we bring in a pitching coach that has 20 years+ experience who can stand where she can see and is not worried about getting killed.
 
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Thats a great article / story!! good reading. Hope pitchers dads or moms read it
 
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That was a great story, mine hit me in the ankle yesterday and it hurt so bad I had to quit for the day. My eyes are goin bad and I cant hardly see the ball when it comes at my face, Im now goin to where a mask and my rocky boots, some will never know what the bucket dad/mom goes thru. lol
 
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I can begin to see value in the words of those with experience, thank you for sharing! Kind of felt DD was a little too dependent on bucket mom last year. Luckily, new age group and team has laid ground work for less bucket mom and more teammates! She will be a better pitcher for it and I, a better parent. Still grateful to be her weekday catcher and currently enjoying a bruised hand. Apparently Santa should have brought me a catchers mitt!!
 
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I found this post while on my quest to find that other post.....I had to bring this one back...especially important during tryout season!!!!!
 
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Thanks for re-posting. Great read. The midweek non-pitching coach workouts are often difficult to get my DD motivated. My daughter is only a year in to pitching (turning 9) so she is still at an age where milk shakes, Dairy Queen or a candy bar will get her tossing!
 
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Great read, point on! Caught one in the left shin yesterday but wouldn't trade it for anything!
 
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My daughter never got tired of me catching her...

Neither does mine. She is entering her junior year in college and I caught 3-4 workouts a week this summer when she was home. She loves having me catch her, and I love doing it.
 

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