OHSAA could vote June 1 whether to extend the baseball and softball seasons

[Captain_Thunder]

Spot on! Ohio weather goes downhill Nov 1

Wow, just think if they had to hold State Championships in SWO instead of the old dungeon in Akron!!! lol

 

[Heavy Hitter]

Actually the weather starts going down hill after the 20 of October when the tournament would start.

 

[wow]

The boys/girls play BBall at the Schott for their state finals. All softball final games should be played Buckeye fields at OSU. By the time HS is done in spring OSU is done.

 

[CARDS]

Keep it the way it is...
We had years with a lot of rain and still got 20+ game in...Its HS softball...The stacked programs will continue to win and those lesser ones will get their games in. They may not make 20 but, will at least hit the league games so everyone gets their stats ...
In the end, everyone will get enough games in to see where they are in the pecking order.

 

[Sweetpea]

I think this concern about extending the season is a little over blown and is only thinking about the elite travel player. Extending the school season would only affect maybe 10% of the teams in the state??? Any player that doesn't make regionals would be done around June 1st. The Ohio High School Athletic Association is not making decisions based on a small percentage of players. There are Varsity, JV and Freshman teams that would all get to play additional games because of this change. In addition to extra games because of a better chance of improved weather, hundreds if not thousands of players would benefit from extra practices because of a longer season.

 

[Captain_Thunder]

I think this concern about extending the season is a little over blown and is only thinking about the elite travel player. Extending the school season would only affect maybe 10% of the teams in the state??? Any player that doesn't make regionals would be done around June 1st. The Ohio High School Athletic Association is not making decisions based on a small percentage of players. There are Varsity, JV and Freshman teams that would all get to play additional games because of this change. In addition to extra games because of a better chance of improved weather, hundreds if not thousands of players would benefit from extra practices because of a longer season.

If you want to know why this is even being considered - They could care less about SOFTBALL!!!!!
It is because of the new pitching rules for high school baseball - so the decision that OHSAA will be making is ALL for baseball & not a thing to do with softball!!!
We will just unfortunately go along for the ride, either way....

 

[raidian70]

We can complain all we want. For the last several years every softball decision the OHSAA has made has been about baseball, but since it is economically feasible for school districts to send both baseball and softball together on the bus, collateral damage has occurred to high school softball. All of this in the way of pitch counts for baseball. Until someone has the guts and the $$$$$$$$$ to take on the OHSAA there really isn't much that can be done, other than the high school coaches to complain, which is starting to happen in my area.

Now to be fair, there are studies out there that talk about pitching use in softball, but that is another topic for another thread.

What the OHSAA needs to do is to cut the non-club rule. I am not sure why that is here, when most of our surrounding states allow it. If travel ball would limit tournaments to Sundays only in April for the high school age kids to allow high school tournaments and doubleheaders (most of which are played in April on Saturdays), and then move to the Saturday-Sunday tournaments in May, I do think most high school coaches (at least the ones who care about their kids) would be okay with it. I have talked with several who agree with me on this point.

And if the OHSAA really cared about softball, they would allow 7th and 8th graders to play high school ball as well, like they do in NY and Kentucky. (Probably another topic for another thread as well).

 

[WalkOffHR]

IF OHSAA, in their infinite wisdom, chooses to do this then it would be the perfect time to get travel ball players to stop wasting their time with HS softball. Seriously, HS softball was a major step backward from 14U/8th grade when the girls were playing high quality softball from March until August. For 4 years it was playing 3-4 games a week against mostly lousy competition.

It wouldn't take long for the best of the best to leave HS behind just like they do rec ball and migrate to a schedule similar to the 14U spring schedule.

 

[Steelers002016]

Nothing wrong with High School softball. It is one of the measurements used by coaches. Like it or not. Ohio just sucks at the level of competition in many leagues. But you can say that about any High School Sport. Unless you think High School Basketball and Football should not be played either. We all know the only sport you MUST play in High school is Football. And to be seen you have to play at one of the top 10 programs. Otherwise you are screwed. So not sure why you think High School Softball sucks. Unless of course you community programs and HS program suck. Change it.

This is the right thing to do. OHSAA makes Ohio High Schools plays during the NCAA quiet period. Which even limits the MAC or Conference USA coaches from seeing them play in Competitive State Tournaments. Have you checked out the rest of the country? Their schedules? Number of games they play? How many High Schools across the country play Tournaments during the NCAA WCWS? Many Do not. And where are all of the players in the SEC, ACC and PAC12 coming from? Not Ohio. So much needs to be done. Name one Ohio college team that is relevant in NCAA. Just one. Very few High school coaches work for their players. Very few AD's keep track of school or OHSAA records. I believe we could compete - If one or two colleges in Ohio would get the very best players from Ohio. If Ohio became serious about Fastpitch, who knows what could happen. God knows OSU needs some help. I have probably said enough on the issues surrounding the OHSAA and the joke it is.

 

[Steelers002016]

I like the switch idea with Vollyball but how many here have kids playing 1 sport? Athletes play multiple sports (in HS). Most good Multi-Sport Athletes get recruited. Softball players play Softball. Good Softball players do not all get recruited.

 

[Steelers002016]

Uhm nobody gets recruited as a senior anymore. NCAA coaches are getting verbals from 7th graders. Stupidest thing I have ever seen. I believe a whole host of changes need to be made. Number one would be no verbals until Sophomore year. Across the board, every sport, both genders. Number 2, kill the quiet period for coaches not in the NCAA Tournament. Who the hell needs the edge? The SEC? the PAC12 or ACC. Nope. the BIG10, MAC, Conference USA etc.... If you didn't make the dance. You can recruit. The day you lose, you can recruit.

The problem is, you cannot change the weather. It doesn't warm up or stop raining in the Midwest until freaking April or May. Either build indoor facilities or get your @SS handed to you by the South and West. Over and Over and Over. This tiny little view of "Travel Ball" is detrimental to the sport. I know what Travel Ball means and I understand how important it is. But Face it. To be Seen you have to spend a $hitload of money going West and South. Which one of the geniuses that post here can say they host the most important Midwest Tournament. Uhm. no such thing. We don't have a single prestigious tournament and The Bandits in Illinois will steal anyone they want from you. If they haven't stolen from you, you do not have the best. The Indy PGF is a Joke. So you have to go to Atlanta. Yup only those with the means can compete then.

Which brings me back to High School Football and Basketball. Funny how it works. The poorest among them get seen! Why is that? yup High School Softball sucks and is a stupid waste of time! The problem is OHSAA spends their time making the absolutely stupid "1960's" decisions. No new thinking.

 

[Steelers002016]

What have you done to change it?

 

[brownsfan]

This is the right thing to do. OHSAA makes Ohio High Schools plays during the NCAA quiet period. Which even limits the MAC or Conference USA coaches from seeing them play in Competitive State Tournaments. Have you checked out the rest of the country? Their schedules? Number of games they play? How many High Schools across the country play Tournaments during the NCAA WCWS? Many Do not. And where are all of the players in the SEC, ACC and PAC12 coming from? Not Ohio. So much needs to be done. Name one Ohio college team that is relevant in NCAA. Just one. Very few High school coaches work for their players. Very few AD's keep track of school or OHSAA records. I believe we could compete - If one or two colleges in Ohio would get the very best players from Ohio. If Ohio became serious about Fastpitch, who knows what could happen. God knows OSU needs some help. I have probably said enough on the issues surrounding the OHSAA and the joke it is.

You are correct about no Ohio team may be relevant in the NCAA. However, how many girls that are from Ohio playing in the show? Let's see, Taryn Alavero, Lili Piper, Alexis Mack, Taylor Hoover, Jenna Lilly, Tatum Christy, and that is just the start. Let's see from the past, Erin Gabriel comes off the top of my head. So we have PAC 12, B1G, SEC, Horizon, and NEC mentioned. The point is, more Ohio teams are leaving the state to play top echelon competition and we're now being represented in the show more. Moving HS softball to the fall would seriously hurt it.

That's one point. As I was reading this thread, a lot was mentioned about volleyball. We have I believe 3 or 4 of our Varsity players play sokker which is a fall sport. How many programs in the state that are DII and under that rely heavily on the multi-sport athlete in order just to play. Leave as it is.

 

[CARDS]

What have you done to change it?

Call Snodgrass and the other board members...Call them a lot...early and often...emails, letters...Calls...etc...

Make sure it is Jerry and the Board members...Ok, Lauren Prochaska Too...

I love to be a pain...

http://ohsaa.org/Portals/0/About-the-OHSAA/Office-Information/WhoToContact.pdf
http://ohsaa.org/about/BOD

 

[classicpride]

Won't work in the fall because the tournament would run into the inclement cold weather that the end of fall brings. The season would have to start in August or be even shorter than it is now to accomplish this. If it starts in August look forward to OHSAA pushing the no contact period into mid July so the same effect happens

 

[BulldawgsDirector]

IMHO Softball should be a fall sport. August, September, with the tournament in October. You could probably squeeze state finals into Halloween weekend with less rain outs. The final 4 should be at OSU.

 

[classicpride]

Many of the Ohio State girls are from Ohio as are the Kent State girls. Marshall has a few as well.

 

[classicpride]

IMHO Softball should be a fall sport. August, September, with the tournament in October. You could probably squeeze state finals into Halloween weekend with less rain outs. The final 4 should be at OSU.

If these dates are used that would mean preseason practices would begin right after the 4th July weekend. That would seriously interfere with a lot f of family vacations and other summer activities. Remember for many, school ball is their only time they play softball.

I fully understand the desire to play in the fall but the timing doesn't work well.

 

[BulldawgsDirector]

If these dates are used that would mean preseason practices would begin right after the 4th July weekend. That would seriously interfere with a lot f of family vacations and other summer activities. Remember for many, school ball is their only time they play softball.

I fully understand the desire to play in the fall but the timing doesn't work well.

I see your point.

 

[coachjwb]

So whatever happened re: this?