My point was missed....why and that is a question not a statement....when kids are hurting that after they go to people like Hillhouse or Gills they stop hurting? What another question....are they teaching that reduces the arm, shoulder, elbow leg issues that other kids have in common with a particular pitching coach?
Statement: It just seems odd that some of these kids have common problems related to certain styles or mechanics being taught and unless the parent has their head in the sand (being polite) they are not listening to their daughters complain about what is hurting them.
I'd like to give the wheel a spin, Mr Sajak...
It's hard to say what those kids were doing in the first place to cause pain in those joints. Was it chicken winging? was it stopping the arm short? Did the girl have timing issues that caused her arm to take a unnatural path?...there are many things that individual pitchers can mess up and cause pain and or injury.
I don't know much about Gillis, but I have watched all of Hillhouses' videos. I agree with everything he teaches up to the point of the follow through going across the body to the opposite shoulder. He says its a "absolute" must have. Many instructors teach, and videos of pitchers in action show, that it is more of a style choice. Other than that it is a mirror of everything my dd has been taught by her pitching instructors, both private lessons and at clinics, and nearly every other video or motion capture I have seen (again up to the follow through).
If the kid had an instructor that was competent, and the kid worked hard at correcting her flaws, there would be nothing to talk about. If either of those two components were missing with other coaches or that kid, the process won't work. Maybe the kid's old instructor was worthless, maybe the kids just listen to Bill and Doug more, or work harder on their own after seeing them...who knows. I have seen kids that go to good pitching instructors and just don't connect with them for one reason or another. Then will go to another instructor and see immediate results. These are young women we are dealing with, If someone has figured them out as to how they think, please PM me...
I doubt seriously that a kid with perfect mechanics that finishes with her arm up as opposed to across her body will ever have the injuries mentioned here. I would suspect that those injuries are a function of another, and possibly multiple, flaws in her mechanics.
...And I agree with you also in that if your dd is hurting somewhere, stop what you are doing, get her to heal, then figure out what was wrong to cause the injury and fix it.