Teams needing players..

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Seems some are criticizing teams for trying to find the best talent available. Holding out to find the stud. That is what the tryout process is for. Somehow to be a good coach you have to fill your team with players who need lots of work???

If that is the case, don't hold a tryout to fill spots, hold a signup. You need to fill four spots, the first four to sign up are in.

 

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What??? You need to have experience to tryout for a travel team....Surely not......and stop calling me Shirley!

 

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Let's not cross the line and make this thread into a list of teams looking...

TheBearMay...I'm not rying to do this. All I was saying was that in our case, we were looking for a specific age and positions which is why we are still looking for players. Also that we had no where near 100 players at tryouts. If I misunderstood your post or it was not aimed at me, I apoligize. I'm not trying to hi-jack this thread.

 

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Yocoach-I don't see 100 players looking for a team under that section.

 

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TheBearMay...I'm not rying to do this. All I was saying was that in our case, we were looking for a specific age and positions which is why we are still looking for players. Also that we had no where near 100 players at tryouts. If I misunderstood your post or it was not aimed at me, I apoligize. I'm not trying to hi-jack this thread.

Just a general warning that several of the posts were getting close. Not pointed at anyone in particular.

 

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Wow - This thread went in many directions.. Let me clarify. My dd must of went to the big org try outs...12u. Is it better to pass on a "needs" some work to hold out for the potential stud you may find? What if you end up short? What if you don't find the stud? I guess it's the risk some coaches will take...

 

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Yocoach-I don't see 100 players looking for a team under that section.

You asked why we didn't have section dedicated to it, Yo pointed you in the right direction. Whether or not the girls use it isn't his problem.

 

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Wow - This thread went in many directions.. Let me clarify. My dd must of went to the big org try outs...12u. Is it better to pass on a "needs" some work to hold out for the potential stud you may find? What if you end up short? What if you don't find the stud? I guess it's the risk some coaches will take...

True, some coaches will take that chance. However, I will not. Give me an athletic girl with a willingness to work hard at her position and I will teach her footwork, fielding, throwing, batting, etc. etc. If I can't, then maybe I shouldn't be coaching. That being said, there are some positional players such as a pitcher or catcher that will need to get a head start so to speak before they reach the 14u competitive level whether it's the "A" level or even the "C" level. I, myself, am willing to put in that time and develop those players. Usually those players with the athleticism, work ethic and heart to play will become those "Studs" that everyone seems to be looking for. If they stay, Great! If not, then you wish them the best of luck and let them know that you will always be there for them. That, to me, is what coaching is all about...sharing your knowledge, making girls the best players that you can make them, instilling the love of softball and hopefully expanding the game.

 

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Seems some are criticizing teams for trying to find the best talent available. Holding out to find the stud. That is what the tryout process is for. Somehow to be a good coach you have to fill your team with players who need lots of work???

If that is the case, don't hold a tryout to fill spots, hold a signup. You need to fill four spots, the first four to sign up are in.

I don't think anyone is criticizing coaches for looking for the best talent possible, just putting it out there as a reason for why coaches don't make offers to every girl who tries out for them. But to be a coach you have to have a team and if you hold out too long looking for the studs, you risk not filling your team.

 

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I guess I should have been more specific, the Org's out there that get the 100 plus at try-outs and only need a handful should pass along the info of players not chosen to other Orgs that are still looking to fill rosters. There should be a list from Coaches/Orgs.

 

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I guess I should have been more specific, the Org's out there that get the 100 plus at try-outs and only need a handful should pass along the info of players not chosen to other Orgs that are still looking to fill rosters. There should be a list from Coaches/Orgs.

I think the player/parent choose which organizations they tryout for, for a reason. I would be VERY unhappy if an organization gave out my private information to someone else.

 

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Some people may disagree with this, but I think it's important that travel teams are made up of girls who have similar skill levels for several reasons, and that's why some organizations hold out for someone at the right (i.e., same) level. This has many advantages. For a coach, it's similar to a teacher in a classroom. If the kids are at about the same level, you don't have to move/instruct at the pace of the slowest child ... and I bet that if you're a parent with one of the kids at a higher level, you don't want that either. Plus if your child is by far the best on the team, chances are you're still not going to be happy because the team will either do poorly playing against competition at your child's level, or do well playing weaker teams but your kid's not going to get any better doing that. Similarly, if your child is behind the others, you're probably looking at a situation where they are going to end up riding the bench more than everyone else, and you and they are not going to be happy with that.

The good news is that there's hundreds of different teams and organizations out there, and I think there's a level for everyone. And while it's noble to think that somehow organizations could share a database of un-committed players, there are numerous issues with that, not the least of which is privacy.

 

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I think the player/parent choose which organizations they tryout for, for a reason. I would be VERY unhappy if an organization gave out my private information to someone else.

It should be the other way around. Orgs who pass on a kid should give the parents of those kids info on other orgs and let them do with it as they may. Let the parents decide if they want to contact other orgs.

Len

 

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Lenski - this is exactly what we do at our tryouts - we will let them know about other opportunities out there for other organizations. We are pretty fundamental about letting player's know if they are not what we are looking for albeit skill, postion, etc. right after the tryout. This insures they don't comeback to another tryout & therefore allows them to use their time more wisely to visit & tryout for other teams. We always tell them to visit this website for tryout info as this is the best source out there.

 

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Some coaches don't have the skills to develop their players so they are waiting for the studs to show up. Some are looking for specific players and didn't see what they wanted at the tryouts. Some are only looking for certain ages. Some are just nuts. I needed 6 players and filled all my spots with the girls who came to my tryouts. I'd rather have girls who WANT to play for me instead of begging kids to please come to my team.

wow you hit them quick and deep! Nice post.

 

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I guess I should have been more specific, the Org's out there that get the 100 plus at try-outs and only need a handful should pass along the info of players not chosen to other Orgs that are still looking to fill rosters. There should be a list from Coaches/Orgs.

I know the coaches in the 98's do this in Cincy quite often. I have several that got the list and in return they have helped our younger teams. Our micro-chasm of a sport needs this type of help to continue to grow. SWO is riddled with slow pitch still and the younger ages don't know travel exists at all!

 

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I guess I should have been more specific, the Org's out there that get the 100 plus at try-outs and only need a handful should pass along the info of players not chosen to other Orgs that are still looking to fill rosters. There should be a list from Coaches/Orgs.

:lmao: Never going to happen. Organizations that have worked hard over the years to build up their reputations to attract the best talent don't owe their want-to-be competition anything. Next thing you'll be saying is that you should be able to walk into someone else's tryouts and hand out your literature to, or recruit, players that are there.

Having said that, there have been times that I turned down a girl or wasn't looking for her position where I was asked and did a recommend a suitable team or teams. Not going to provide anyone a list though.

 

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the "list" I mentioned is a verbal "did you know so and so" was looking... just so I don't get myself in a ringer about my list statement mentioned earlier. Ooops....

 

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There seems to be several 14U teams looking for coaches too? Anyone else notice this? What gives this year??

 

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The volume of girls wasn't the same this year the large amount of travel teams hurt the tryouts.